The New Normal

[Windex]

The bigot women are ignoring the official results.


The real result of the race


I really hope someone who is Woke can explain how this is OK?

[DeletedUser]

They’ll be along soon enough with their misogynistic guff, don’t you worry.

[isha]

''I have never been interested enough in swimming in America to be too bothered..'' - Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson (who does not know what a woman is, because she is not a biologist) called and would like her fence-sitting position back...

Anyway, thankfully burly Lia is peaking a lot of people as to how ridiculous it is to have male bodies competing in female sports.
My opinion is what a pity it took a conundrum in US college sports for people to swivel their heads and take notice - all the hundreds of violent males incarcerated with the poorest women in America, just because they say they feel like a woman, did not manage to prick people's conscience.
Still, I guess if it takes cute college girls being stiffed to make people begin to wise up, that'll do.

PS Congratulations to Sonia O Sullivan for speaking up.

[JayZeus]

It was only a matter of time before this was brought up again.

Fine.

Lia Thomas has no business taking part in women’s competitive sports for reasons that are entirely obvious to everyone. Everyone.

Some might prioritise some agenda over acknowledging a simple truth. They still know it’s a lie to say Lia is a woman.

Women should completely boycott these sort of shambolic events. Leave the oddballs to revel in their collective mental illness.

[Cyclepath]

Very good take on this from Alex Massie (Sunday Times journalist) on substack:

https://alexmassie.substack.com/p/the-d ... lia-thomas

Standout line: "... regrettably, we must conclude reality is transphobic"

[isha]

The same people who sneer now that it is transphobic to question trans women in female sports are likely the very same ones who, not so long ago, were arguing - and passionately, contemptuously, poor suiciding children stuff - that anyone who spoke out against puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for vulnerable (or otherwise) minors was a bigoted TERF and transphobe.

Doctors know best, I was personally told. Do you dare to presume you know better than the experts etc etc....

Anyway in the past year or so several professional bodies in various advanced countries have come out very firmly against puberty blockers and cross sex hormones, and it has been revealed that much harm has been done to children in various gender clinics by following ideology rather than science. Children have been left sterile, sexually impotent, with loss of bone density etc etc. All because a gender theory ideology needed the ab initio trans child as ''proof'', and because a child who is medicalised younger will ''pass'' easier. It has been nothing short of a disgrace.

It continues strongly in some countries. A few days ago I saw a clip of a poor unfortunate child displaying her uterus in a jar, delighted to have a spin base to display it on like a lava lamp. 20 years old and healthy uterus removed. No mention of the fact that the removal of the uterus can predispose the lower organs to prolapse, not to mention immediate menopause. Anyways, that is just one example. There are uncountable images of young early teens with chest scars from having their breasts removed.


Personally I think people should not call transgender people mental cases etc - I think there are many gender diverse and severely dysphoric people. It must be a dreadful affliction - and the choices are not great. No wonder so few trans women go for surgery - it can only ever be a simulacrum of the desired state. And blocking testosterone and taking estrogen (for males) reduces potency of erections, so the choice that way is reduced libido and sexual sensation. It really is a terrible affliction to bear. For girls who transition there can be terrible vaginal issues due to hormone disruption, dryness, infection, loss of sensation, plus baldness, cardio vascular problems etc.

Better to express gender however one feels, but maintain good healthy bodily functions. I hope we evolve as a species to that - stay healthy and be whoever you want. Because what is happening now looks like barbaric meat-lego grasping at transhumanism.

I also think there is a paraphiliac aspect for some people - there has been a big influence from porn among some trans identifying people. It is widely admitted by trans gender people but not permitted to be said in polite society. Nonetheless, even if I do not like the very many porn-saturated images of the surprisingly large number of trans women displaying what it is to be a ''woman'' that fill social media platforms, I still think these people have a right to express themselves and do whatever (consensual activity) rocks their world.

My issue is when rights clash. I am a sex realist. Sex exists. Humans can express gender differently but humans cannot change sex.
Sex based spaces, sports, protections, rights etc cannot be handed over to people who identify as having changed gender.

Third spaces are necessary. For example trans women should not be in male prisons as it is dangerous for them, but also they can certainly be not in female prisons. Safeguarding goes out the window instantly if anyone who says they are a woman can access female spaces.

Trans women should not be in female sports, but certainly should be very welcome in mixed, male or open categories, or a trans category. And cheered on like all sports people.

Trans women cannot access female only intimate spaces, but comfortable, secure, dignified, protected spaces can be properly and widely afforded to people who express their gender opposite to their birth sex.

[isha]

I feel the blindingly obvious actually needs to be stated. Doctors know best when it comes to advice about your personal health. I find your scepticism about this amusing.

I wouldn't say my GP knows best about society and trans issues. I fact I've never discussed this with her at all. Is the rest of your post based on advice you received from a GP, or random articles and videos from the www?

The point I made quite clearly is that the doctors in the gender clinics were proven to be wrong.

Medical error, iatrogenic harm, is among the leading causes of death, and accounts for more deaths than all other accidental causes
So laugh away. You are exactly the sort who championed the gender clinics and the iatrogenic harm they inflicted on vulnerable children.

[DeletedUser]

I’ve been an ally to the gay community for decades and to read a post as I did yesterday calling a gay man a “genital fetishist” makes me sick to my stomach.

So called trans activists are the most vile bunch out there.

[Cyclepath]

I also think there is a paraphiliac aspect for some people - there has been a big influence from porn among some trans identifying people. It is widely admitted by trans gender people but not permitted to be said in polite society. Nonetheless, even if I do not like the very many porn-saturated images of the surprisingly large number of trans women displaying what it is to be a ''woman'' that fill social media platforms, I still think these people have a right to express themselves and do whatever (consensual activity) rocks their world.

I think many folks underestimate this aspect. There seem to be two main categories of trans folks: those who genuinely want to be a different sex and (especially in the case of FtM) those who appear to be in the grip of autogynephilia and wish to Live Action Role Play the part.

It's no secret that a large proportion of FtM candidates end up becoming female lesbians and also that many choose to keep their male genitalia. A large proportion of candidates also seek to capitalise on their new physical appearance in various porn scenarios. I've heard one theory that it's how many candidates fund bottom surgery but I'm not convinced, there are too many trans folks retaining their original genitalia. I really do think there are many people that enjoy and actively seek this 'third sex' status.

Given that this status lends itself to a high degree of paraphilia and sexual charge, I really don't think women's private spaces should be accessible for them.

[DeletedUser]

I think many folks underestimate this aspect. There seem to be two main categories of trans folks: those who genuinely want to be a different sex and (especially in the case of FtM) those who appear to be in the grip of autogynephilia and wish to Live Action Role Play the part.

It's no secret that a large proportion of FtM candidates end up becoming female lesbians and also that many choose to keep their male genitalia. A large proportion of candidates also seek to capitalise on their new physical appearance in various porn scenarios. I've heard one theory that it's how many candidates fund bottom surgery but I'm not convinced, there are too many trans folks retaining their original genitalia. I really do think there are many people that enjoy and actively seek this 'third sex' status.

Given that this status lends itself to a high degree of paraphilia and sexual charge, I really don't think women's private spaces should be accessible for them.

It's the pure level of entitlement and delusion that I can't get over!!!

One fruit loop online said "no other group suffers as much as trans people do" - REALLY ?? black people fighting for civil rights ? Gay men having a disease created just to kill them off ?? Women ?? Jewish people ?? Literally everyone has suffered more than you!!!

They seriously get off on the power they have for such a tiny minority.

Saw this idiot berating the nursing staff at the hospital who delivered her baby, yes "HER" baby as men CANNOT GIVE BIRTH!!!!

"How dare they address me as 'mom' ?? Okay mate so you're offended by being called a term for women but are absolutely fine with using the plumbing God gave you and pushing a baby out through a female organ ??? They should be called out for that hypocrisy alone.

Women have been fighting for our rights for decades and now men have found a way to oppress us and get away with it - pretend to be us. It's sick.

Have whatever paraphilia you like - good on you if you get someone else to join in, fill yer boots. But quit trying to subvert science and nature and leave gay people alone!! If a young women is a tomboy and likes girls - leave her fecking be!!!!