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marhay70
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Gaelic Footballl, give it up now

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I've never been a fan of Gaelic Football and normally I'd be as far as I could possibly get from an All Ireland final. Still, yesterday I was unfortunate enough to be in a situation where watching the "game" was unavoidable. I know I have probably committed sins over my lifetime but I reckon that being forced to watch that drudge has absolved me of the majority. Normally I would have sympathy for the losers of such a game as this, it is, after all, the pinnacle of the season, but Galway contributed to what was on offer, with their negative attitude.
No doubt the Armagh supporters will be happy enough, having got their hands on the trophy, but really, there can be no winners from this shite. Give it up now, go back to the drawing board, and devise a game worth looking at. Get rid of the handpass, have only scores with the boot counted, no passing back to the keeper are a few I could suggest. It probably still won't be a spectacle but at least it might not be a bore fest.
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Return of the Mac
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marhay70 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:33 am I've never been a fan of Gaelic Football and normally I'd be as far as I could possibly get from an All Ireland final. Still, yesterday I was unfortunate enough to be in a situation where watching the "game" was unavoidable. I know I have probably committed sins over my lifetime but I reckon that being forced to watch that drudge has absolved me of the majority. Normally I would have sympathy for the losers of such a game as this, it is, after all, the pinnacle of the season, but Galway contributed to what was on offer, with their negative attitude.
No doubt the Armagh supporters will be happy enough, having got their hands on the trophy, but really, there can be no winners from this shite. Give it up now, go back to the drawing board, and devise a game worth looking at. Get rid of the handpass, have only scores with the boot counted, no passing back to the keeper are a few I could suggest. It probably still won't be a spectacle but at least it might not be a bore fest.
The handpass is not the problem but a symptom of the problem. That being packed defenses. Due to the lack of space the attacking team has no choice but to hold possession. The way to do that is handpass the ball around and try to find a gap. The solution is too make more space. This can be done by either reducing the number of player, so go from 15 aside to 13 aside or introduce a rule where teams must keep a certain number of players in the oppositions half at all times.

A Committee is trailing new rules. So change is on the way
marhay70
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Return of the Mac wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:49 am The handpass is not the problem but a symptom of the problem. That being packed defenses. Due to the lack of space the attacking team has no choice but to hold possession. The way to do that is handpass the ball around and try to find a gap. The solution is too make more space. This can be done by either reducing the number of player, so go from 15 aside to 13 aside or introduce a rule where teams must keep a certain number of players in the oppositions half at all times.

A Committee is trailing new rules. So change is on the way
How many times have "committees" changed the rules? I've lost count. The handpass is a problem, whatever about the fisted pass, the flicked pass from the hand is too difficult to intercept, it's like basketball. Scoring with the hand should be abolished too, again, too easy and gives the keeper next to no chance. I'd agree with reducing the number of players to create space but something needs to be done quickly to create a spectacle if spectators are to be kept entertained, there were times during the game yesterday I thought the sound was muted. Not much chance of attracting sceptics like me to that.
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Setanta
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marhay70 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:33 am I've never been a fan of Gaelic Football and normally I'd be as far as I could possibly get from an All Ireland final. Still, yesterday I was unfortunate enough to be in a situation where watching the "game" was unavoidable. I know I have probably committed sins over my lifetime but I reckon that being forced to watch that drudge has absolved me of the majority. Normally I would have sympathy for the losers of such a game as this, it is, after all, the pinnacle of the season, but Galway contributed to what was on offer, with their negative attitude.
No doubt the Armagh supporters will be happy enough, having got their hands on the trophy, but really, there can be no winners from this shite. Give it up now, go back to the drawing board, and devise a game worth looking at. Get rid of the handpass, have only scores with the boot counted, no passing back to the keeper are a few I could suggest. It probably still won't be a spectacle but at least it might not be a bore fest.
There's not much foot work involved in football anymore


The 2 points for scores kicked outside the 45 could make a big difference,the mark improved it,but high fielding is dying out,which is a pity


A requirement to keep a minimum of 6 players outside your own 45 would be the answer to blanket defences and give credence to teams to long kick ball over a crowded middle third to someone who can high-field it and call a mark (though this may need restricting too)

because Armagh had Galway on the rack at one stage,went three points up and withdrew,nearly losing the match.....they'll end up like the great Tyrone teams,some fantastic attacking players and get known for playing dour,shite football
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Setanta
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Anyone going to go to these railway cup competitions,or watch em for the new rules


https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/ ... -football/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... ry147o.amp



Seems to be a good bit of taught put into them,begins to reward skill levels again,but does it miss out on tackling the existence of runners.....I'd fancy Clifford to fly with the 40 metre arc
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Return of the Mac
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Crokers is fine to watch a Gah match during the day, provided one keeps their wits about them. But a night the area assumes a menacing nature. I was lucky enough to be there yesterday for the Leinster V Munster Rugby match and I cannot praise the members of AGS enough. Helpful and unfailingly polite and there in large enough numbers as to keep the riff raff away. So there social betters could go to and from the game in relative comfort and security. I fear there will be nowhere near the same AGS presence next Friday & Saturday. And I put my safety above any glorified challenge match.
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Setanta wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:31 am Anyone going to go to these railway cup competitions,or watch em for the new rules


https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/ ... -football/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... ry147o.amp



Seems to be a good bit of taught put into them,begins to reward skill levels again,but does it miss out on tackling the existence of runners.....I'd fancy Clifford to fly with the 40 metre arc
Have to laugh how they have one Jim Gavin on RTE giving his opinion on rule changes to do with cynical play.
He was the manager of a team that had 5 or 6 of his team pull down 5 or 6 of the opposition during the last kickout of the gaem to make sure his team won All Ireland by 1 point.

The rule was in place then with black card to actually bin those 5 or 6 players, but the ref chickened out.

Like with road traffic laws, there is no use having rules if they not enforced.

Also the proposed mullarkey around kickouts would confuse Einstein never mind some fullbacks and goalies.
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jmayo wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:39 pm Have to laugh how they have one Jim Gavin on RTE giving his opinion on rule changes to do with cynical play.
He was the manager of a team that had 5 or 6 of his team pull down 5 or 6 of the opposition during the last kickout of the gaem to make sure his team won All Ireland by 1 point.

The rule was in place then with black card to actually bin those 5 or 6 players, but the ref chickened out.

Like with road traffic laws, there is no use having rules if they not enforced.

Also the proposed mullarkey around kickouts would confuse Einstein never mind some fullbacks and goalies.
The kickout rule is as follows: "The ball shall travel beyond the 20m line and outside the 40m arc before being played by another player on the attacking team." But your right. How will the goalkeepers cope :roll:
Setanta
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Return of the Mac wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:26 pm The kickout rule is as follows: "The ball shall travel beyond the 20m line and outside the 40m arc before being played by another player on the attacking team." But your right. How will the goalkeepers cope :roll:
It will in all likelihood slow the game down,doing away with the quick/short kickout....but fundamental I believe sport should reward skills,and high fielding with the mark should see a return to skill based game,and might save the game from collapsing into a borefest
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PogMoThoin22
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Another objection of mine is bringing the keeper up the field to take frees, this is a tactic used by many teams, they should limit this to inside their own 45
Setanta
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On in the background when cooking here..... Connacht mincing Leinster,it's great to see the two pints for long kicking rewarded
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Missed most of final,but Connacht and Ulster ended in a high score draw and away onto penalties now 🙂
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa ... 88614.html


Some more updates to the rules.....it's improved the game,made it more attacking and rewards skill,should been done 10 years ago

Still not as good as hurling,but I think a good summer day,it could bring the best out of it,and spread competitive good games to more than top 2-3 teams
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PogMoThoin22
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The keeper needs to stay in his own half, don't like that side of things
Setanta
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PogMoThoin22 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:16 pm The keeper needs to stay in his own half, don't like that side of things
I think it's a really stupid tactic.... we'd been berated growing up,if we did it....now it's a tactic :|

Even passing about in backs to man-on players or across the goal we'd been roasted for,now lads see intercounty level players do it on the regular.....the game has regressed alot,when it can be entertaining when played to it's basic strengths
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