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End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:41 pm
by Breezin
Good news from NI... https://www.mag-uk.org/the-beginning-of ... d-victory/

I wonder will it help progress the cause south of the border?

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:56 pm
by dawg
Took a long, long time to get that agreed.
Was it the early 90's that this was originally raised ?
IIRC the things continued to be installed even after it was widely recognized that they were lethal for bikers

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:38 pm
by Breezin
Aren't they still being installed in RoI? I've never heard otherwise.

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:47 pm
by dawg
No longer do the crazy amount of driving that I used to have to so may be wrong here.

My impression is that the barrier of choice is the concrete 'wall' type with armco used where its not possible.

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:22 pm
by Tigger
New strech of n4 I to Sligo is cheese wire all the way down the middle. First thing I noticed when I tried the road out.

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:14 pm
by dawg
:(

Hard to credit that such stuff can be part of new design.

Wonder how it got spec'd ?

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:56 pm
by Tigger
They don't care that's why.

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:38 pm
by Itineo
Here's an interesting video I came across lately on the topic. Not a mention of a motorcycle anywhere though.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1170423666426509

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:16 pm
by dawg
Reckon the concrete barrier is the job.

I dont understand how the cheese wire barriers got back to being spec'd

All I can think is that the old designers have retired / died and there is a new generation that have been influenced by salesmen and need some counter education from Bikers.

Then again, there is always the longstanding issue with EU central having it in for bikes

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:03 am
by Itineo
Dunno though about mainland Europe - I never noticed anything like the cheesecutters we have here on my travels. I'm off to France next week in the van and will be doing a fair bit of driving. I'll keep an eye out for them while I'm there.
As an aside I wonder are there any accident stats relating to motorcycles and wire barriers either here or abroad?

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:10 pm
by Breezin
I doubt if the stats would give that much detail.

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:44 am
by 490808
Did a trip from North to South yesterday and first noticed one set of cheese wires on a junction on the M7 and then of course the whole of the central reservation of the M1 is three strands of cheese wire all the way.

Re: End of the cheese wire?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:48 pm
by Breezin
Hard not to reach the conclusion that those in charge of our roads don't have much time for motorcyclists.