Mod Decisions and Discussion

[PogMoThoin22]

Not good when one of the most prolific posters in parts of the site is banned.

The site is better off without them, been on my ignore list for a while but unfortunately you guys kept quoting the troll

[jmayo]

The site is better off without them, been on my ignore list for a while but unfortunately you guys kept quoting the troll

So she was a troll because you didn't agree with her?

So I guess I should call you a troll ?

[Guburnor]

So she was a troll because you didn't agree with her?

So I guess I should call you a troll ?

I understand you don't agree with the ban, and that's fine, but please don't get into a row with other posters over it.

[the dunne]

Very disappointing decision in my opinion Gub

[75987653]

So she was a troll because you didn't agree with her?

So I guess I should call you a troll ?

Where did they say she's a troll because of not agreeing with her? Obviously it's much more than that.
That oft-used line is very dishonest. Nobody with any intelligence thinks anyone is a troll just because they disagree with them.
BTW, I don't agree with that member being banned.

[knownunknown]

I do wonder if that decision would still have to be made if there was more active moderation, obviously that would also entail getting more help. It’s clear that gubunor puts a lot of work and time and probably money into the site but being active all the time is impossible. Sometimes those disputes can be nipped in the bud before they begin.

I propose that some of the reins go to Isha as she has proved consistently to be open and fair minded and is one of the most prolific posters.

[Guburnor]

I do wonder if that decision would still have to be made if there was more active moderation, obviously that would also entail getting more help. It’s clear that gubunor puts a lot of work and time and probably money into the site but being active all the time is impossible. Sometimes those disputes can be nipped in the bud before they begin.

I propose that some of the reins go to Isha as she has proved consistently to be open and fair minded and is one of the most prolific posters.

TBH I think the decision would still have to been made, it might appear there is little active moderation but I read all the posts of the banned user for some time leading up to decision. There is a modding radar even if it does not look like it!

That said, more help is always welcome, so if any of the open, fair minded and prolific posters wish to volunteer please PM me!

[isha]

Very kind of you Knownunknown, but I'm too whimsical, too busy these days, too mean, frankly, and I like my freedom to be wrong, flippant and judgemental too much. I've expunged my karma moderating a forum in a past life and I'm far too misanthropic to do it again.


I think the moderation is generally fine.

[ceannairceach]

Is there actually any point in reporting ???

Planks has dozens of faults like but at least when you report someone for being a dick, breaking rules etc you at least get a response saying “we’re doing SFA because …”.

Here - nothing.

So far I’ve reported …

Attack the post not the poster - ignored
Link dumps with no post or opinion - ignored
Being a dick - ignored

[Guburnor]

Is there actually any point in reporting ???

Planks has dozens of faults like but at least when you report someone for being a dick, breaking rules etc you at least get a response saying “we’re doing SFA because …”.

Here - nothing.

So far I’ve reported …

Attack the post not the poster - ignored
Link dumps with no post or opinion - ignored
Being a dick - ignored

Your reports weren't ignored, and you know it because you get a notification they have been closed and dealt with. As you're well aware if you want specific clarification on why no action was taken you can post here to ask.

For example your most recent report that prompted this was this post for attacking the poster rather than the post:

I guess you presume everyone to be anti semetic because you assume they are like you.
Most people can separate the actions of some, and not generalise Against billions of people of the same religion.

To provide context Bubblypop's post was in direct reply to your post stating:

An extremist Muslim carries out the atrocities, a strict Muslim helps them and the rest of them agree silently.

In the context of these posts, and in absence of any further info in your report other than stating it was an attack on you, I disagreed and thought Bubblypop's post was a comment on your post, specifically the "and the rest of them agree silently" part. Hence I took no action.

Do you want me to go through the rest of your reports one by one for you?

[knownunknown]

Is there actually any point in reporting ???

Planks has dozens of faults like but at least when you report someone for being a dick, breaking rules etc you at least get a response saying “we’re doing SFA because …”.

Here - nothing.

So far I’ve reported …

Attack the post not the poster - ignored
Link dumps with no post or opinion - ignored
Being a dick - ignored

If someone is dumping something without opinion what’s wrong with that, unless of course it’s just filibustering the thread.

I think it’s best to just question that person nicely without being a dick, see what they say then. Similarly if they just post something as fact without proof and you ask and they still refuse and keep repeating that thing I can see how reprimanding that person can be beneficial to discussion.

Try to give a chance first, I do agree with you a lot and your opinions but not always the tone with which you approach people, it doesn’t always allow for healthy discussions.

Let’s not turn this place into the tit for tat back and forth bickering that boards is, I don’t think anyone here wants that.

[Belladonna]

False allegations of anti Semitism/terrorism-supporting is something that should be clamped down on imo.

[ceannairceach]

False allegations of anti Semitism/terrorism-supporting is something that should be clamped down on imo.

Actual antisemitism you’re fine with like ?

[Belladonna]

Actual antisemitism you’re fine with like ?

You appear to have left out the allegations part. But yes, if someone who's showing obvious anti-Semitism is accused of same, that is fine.

[knownunknown]

“ I understand you are trying to find any angel at all to have a go at the Muslims, but this isn't the one.”

I shouldn’t have replied. This person is disgusting and is not here for a discussion.

[ceannairceach]

“ I understand you are trying to find any angel at all to have a go at the Muslims, but this isn't the one.”

I shouldn’t have replied. This person is disgusting and is not here for a discussion.

Ben saying that for such a time, and now there’s others who can lie about posters with impunity.

[Jequ0n]

To be honest you all seem a bit nuts and way too intense about some topics here. What does it matter if someone has a different opinion.

[ceannairceach]

To be honest you all seem a bit nuts and way too intense about some topics here. What does it matter if someone has a different opinion.

You’re missing the point - it’s not about others holding a different opinion, it’s them denying facts presented to them and gaslighting.

[Jequ0n]

You’re missing the point - it’s not about others holding a different opinion, it’s them denying facts presented to them and gaslighting.

I might have missed topics and conversations, so will leave it up to the mod to respond to you of course.
I mean this in the nicest possible, and not offensive way, but you do sometimes seem to take things a bit personally, and react quite emotionally then. It’s just an discussion forum.

[Guburnor]

“ I understand you are trying to find any angel at all to have a go at the Muslims, but this isn't the one.”

I shouldn’t have replied. This person is disgusting and is not here for a discussion.

Is there something you want me to respond to here? Not sure if you're raising an issue with modding or mod decision. thanks

[Guburnor]

You’re missing the point - it’s not about others holding a different opinion, it’s them denying facts presented to them and gaslighting.

Can you give any examples of what you think the issue is and explain it a bit more clearly?

[knownunknown]

Can you give any examples of what you think the issue is and explain it a bit more clearly?

I made this post:

I’m not saying the police are taking sides. I’m saying they are kow-towing to the mob frothing at the mouth. They have a monopoly on violence for a reason, they should use it. If they don’t other mobs frothing at the mouth are going to go out in the streets and challenge them.

This new poster replied

Except they're not.

Ok that’s fine, a difference of opinion is always welcome. I didn’t feel the need to respond. But then I see that same poster attacking someone else for this:

No. You need to actually make an argument instead of posting the same silly thing ad nauseam. Repeating something stupid does not make it sensible.

Since they had just disagreed with my post without an argument I called out the hypocrisy of it.

Pot, kettle, black.

They then replied with

It's your point. If you can't be bothered to make it, nobody else is going to spoonfeed you.

You replied to my point with “except they’re not” and then reprimanded someone else for not making a point, your either here to disrupt the thread or you don’t realize how hypocritical you are?

No need to get upset. I'm just questioning your narrative, such as it is.

Now this poster is either mentally unwell or on a serious trolling spree. They haven’t even attempted to engage in discussion, it’s all tired cliches designed to enrage. This isn’t Reddit or boards.

[Guburnor]

Now this poster is either mentally unwell or on a serious trolling spree.

Possibly trolling, which if so, appears to have worked. Ignore them.

Is this the gaslighting and denying facts that ceannairceach is talking about?

[ceannairceach]

Can you give any examples of what you think the issue is and explain it a bit more clearly?

Gladly - i was told to give examples and not just post one line - by a poster who had done the same.

I notes I have posted several examples of two tier policing namely the differences in sentencing of Lucy Connolly (a tweet and jailed for over two years) and Ricky Jones (did it in public in front of real people - walks free).

I’m told it doesn’t count as it’s from “YouTube and far right sources”

I asked for links to these (and was gaslit that I was lying and being a “snowflake”

Sorry on phone so can’t do links but it’s the same poster and sane thread.

[AnGaelach]

I made this post:



This new poster replied



Ok that’s fine, a difference of opinion is always welcome. I didn’t feel the need to respond. But then I see that same poster attacking someone else for this:



Since they had just disagreed with my post without an argument I called out the hypocrisy of it.



They then replied with






Now this poster is either mentally unwell or on a serious trolling spree. They haven’t even attempted to engage in discussion, it’s all tired cliches designed to enrage. This isn’t Reddit or boards.

I have a different opinion from you. That's all it is. If you're going to get abusive because someone on the internet asked you questions, I won't waste any more time on your trolling, lies or abuse.