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'Bobby Fingers' video
There is a post in the “cool and funny” thread (which is neither) that is of a comedian taking the piss out of the accident that left Michael Jackson with severe burns - which also led to his dependency on pain medication which ultimately killed him far too early.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
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Agree fully with you there, PlanePlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:19 pm There is a post in the “cool and funny” thread (which is neither) that is of a comedian taking the piss out of the accident that left Michael Jackson with severe burns - which also led to his dependency on pain medication which ultimately killed him far too early.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
I know Michael Jackson has a checkered history: A case in point is "The Simpsons" cartoon episode featuring his voice for a character which does the moonwalk and interacts with Lisa - this particular episode has been erased and is being erased from Simpsons history - This does not make it okay to completely destroy his dignity as a human though
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Nothing quite like censorship TBF .....the bloke was absurd,had unhealthy involvement with children that was never fully accounted for,surely it's reasonable enough to make satire of whole issue?gugleguy wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:30 pm Agree fully with you there, Plane
I know Michael Jackson has a checkered history: A case in point is "The Simpsons" cartoon episode featuring his voice for a character which does the moonwalk and interacts with Lisa - this particular episode has been erased and is being erased from Simpsons history - This does not make it okay to completely destroy his dignity as a human though
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FFS. Comedy is subjective. I thought the video was hilarious btw. You may not find it funny, that's fine, but that does not mean it should be removed in case someone else doesn't find it funny.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:19 pm There is a post in the “cool and funny” thread (which is neither) that is of a comedian taking the piss out of the accident that left Michael Jackson with severe burns - which also led to his dependency on pain medication which ultimately killed him far too early.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
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Agree 100%, it’s much more simplistic if one’s turns off their own internet rather than hopelessly appeasing everyone.PogMoThoin22 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 2:23 pm FFS. Comedy is subjective. I thought the video was hilarious btw. You may not find it funny, that's fine, but that does not mean it should be removed in case someone else doesn't find it funny.
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I dunno PS. I agree with Pog that comedy is subjective. One person's offense is another's humour and I don't believe that should be moderated. Your dislike of the video is your dislike of the video. In my opinion that's not a reason for it to be removed.
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I think, generally speaking, the moderation is pretty good on this site tbh. Not too heavy handed but not afraid to take action when it's needed either.
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Boards only allows it for people outside of protected classes whereas I’d say GUBU is pretty fair in that it allows mockery of everyone equally.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:19 pm There is a post in the “cool and funny” thread (which is neither) that is of a comedian taking the piss out of the accident that left Michael Jackson with severe burns - which also led to his dependency on pain medication which ultimately killed him far too early.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
You have the freedom to post such crude jokes but you also have the freedom to pushback and argue against this which is sorely lacking on boards. “Any talk about such and such will result in a threadban”
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Missing the point lads - yeah take the piss completely, no one should be safe.
Mocking an issue where someone was in physical pain and could likely have hastened the end of their life / fcking sick.
Mocking an issue where someone was in physical pain and could likely have hastened the end of their life / fcking sick.
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Re: 'Bobby Fingers' video
I'm not going to pass any comment on the content of the video, as my view on that is irrelevant to the modding decision which I'm happy to explain.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:19 pm There is a post in the “cool and funny” thread (which is neither) that is of a comedian taking the piss out of the accident that left Michael Jackson with severe burns - which also led to his dependency on pain medication which ultimately killed him far too early.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
First off if you report a post generally one of two things will happen - if it is agreed mod action needs to be taken, then it will be taken. If not, the mod report is closed without even the decency of a comment.
If the reporter wishes to comment and question the lack of action, they're very welcome to do so in this forum, in which case I'll explain why I chose to close the report/take no action. Or indeed any other aspect that a poster, whether reporter or reportee, wishes to have clarified.
The thinking behind this is I'd prefer to have as much modding commentary as possible conducted in open discussion, for all to see/comment/contribute.
Your specific report raised a concern that a poster was making light of an incident in which somebody (Michael Jackson) could have died - In his latest video, Irish artist 'Bobby Fingers' recreates the incident when Michael Jackson's hair caught fire
I viewed the post, and saw that it was a YouTube video with a couple of explanatory lines of the who and the what. In my opinion there was nothing in the explanatory post accompanying the YouTube video that was offensive or sick, or even remotely warranting mod action.
As far as the content of the YouTube video is concerned I took the view that YouTube has some of the most draconian content moderation rules on the internet. They'd have a far lower bar than GUBU does in decreeing what people can and cannot watch, and I'm not keen to start telling members here that they cannot post/discuss things that YouTube think is perfectly OK.
I totally understand why the content of the video is not to everybody's taste but that in itself is not a good enough reason to delete it. Hence the post report was closed and no action was taken.
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WE dont need to be constantly compared to boards, thats not our yardstick. This is GUBU, and its great as is.
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Sure yeah whatever - okay to laugh at someone set on fire here eh ?
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Exactly. If I want to comment on Boards then I'll go on Boards and comment, the reason I'm on Gubu is that I don't want to comment on Boards. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.
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It's horrible but lots of shit out there is. I find personal attacks on groups of people simply because they aren't white/male/female/straight/think like me etc to be unnecessary and Gubu certainly gives it's share, but they are just opinions.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 9:27 pm Sure yeah whatever - okay to laugh at someone set on fire here eh ?
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I won’t give a sad troll like you the satisfaction of telling you what exactly I fcking think of you.
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Fair point but given we are being infiltrated by Boards trolls how can we be sure a post is just tasteless and not deliberate ???Diamonds of Frost wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:20 pm It's horrible but lots of shit out there is. I find personal attacks on groups of people simply because they aren't white/male/female/straight/think like me etc to be unnecessary and Gubu certainly gives it's share, but they are just opinions.
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I don't think we can.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:10 pm Fair point but given we are being infiltrated by Boards trolls how can we be sure a post is just tasteless and not deliberate ???
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You shouldn't respond to him at all.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:09 pm I won’t give a sad troll like you the satisfaction of telling you what exactly I fcking think of you.
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Sad but true Frosty
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I know, I couldn’t help it - I’m sorry but obvious trolls who get away with it when they’ve been identified as clearly planks plants drive me mad.
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Planespeeking it’s obvious you have some issues and venting it here. Please take some time to steady your compass.
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I'm sorry Planespeeking. I can see now how you were upset about me posting the Michael Jackson diorama video.PlaneSpeeking wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:19 pm There is a post in the “cool and funny” thread (which is neither) that is of a comedian taking the piss out of the accident that left Michael Jackson with severe burns - which also led to his dependency on pain medication which ultimately killed him far too early.
The fact that was allowed is bad enough. But reporting it and just seeing the report closed with not even the decency of a comment is wrong.
Is this like Boards where anything is fair game if it is about someone they think “deserves” it ??
Sick.
Sometimes I just stupidity post something without even considering whether or not it's in poor taste.
I didn't post it to upset, nor was it my intention to offend anyone. At the time I was just in awe of the chaps artistic and creative abilities. I hadn't really considered how it would be viewed by any MJ fans on Gubu.
Looking again at the video, he does state that when he was younger, he was a massive MJ fan himself, and he also says how there is grainy footage of the incident available, but that he wasn't going to share any links of it, as "the last thing he wants to do is upset any MJ fans".
Anyway look, lesson learnt . . I will try to be more considerate about what I post here in the future.
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Very decent of you, much appreciated.
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