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Deaths After Vaccination in Pfizer Trial Not Fully Investigated, New Documents Reveal


This is a rather long and detailed read, but no less concerning because of that.


https://dailysceptic.org/2022/07/13/dea ... ts-reveal/
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There is now an abundance of articles about the Qatar study of the results of vaccination and/or infection.
Each one appears to take a slightly different view of the results, apparently depending on the writer's overall opinion.
From my unschooled viewpoint, it seems that vaccination with booster is equivalent to 'survival of initial infection', withing 6 months of the booster shot. Thereafter natural immunity (previous infection only, no vax) has the better protection.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2203965

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.full.pdf

Further info

Qatar Omicron-Wave Study Shows Slow Decline of Natural Immunity, Rapid Decline of Vaccine Immunity

https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/202 ... decline-of

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One has to read carefully before coming to any conclusion. For instance this article says
"Seven months after infection with a pre-Omicron variant of SARA-CoV-2, natural immunity prevents reinfection by another pre-Omicron variant with an effectiveness of more than 90% - but this falls to less than 10% after another 25 months, modelling says"
That decline after the 16th month is according to whatever modelling they used .... not actual data.
Effectiveness peaked at 90.5% in the 7th month after the first infection and fell to about 70% at 16 months (see ‘Immunity fades away’). By extrapolating this trend, the authors predict that effectiveness against reinfection will fall to less than 10% 32 months after the first infection.
(highlighted by me)

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586- ... -6#ref-CR1

Essentially it appears to me that one can select results from multiple studies to support whatever argument one wishes to make.

'The Science is settled'! Right!
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Tweet today from the German Federal Ministry of Health. This risk admitted is for 1 per 5000 doses, not people, so the risk is repeating. And continues going forward with each shot. Plus these are the serious life-changing risks, not the many others, and this is only the percentage that they are presently admitting.

All coercion that was applied - lose your job, your livelihood, incitement to hatred by media pundits and global politicians, no right to enter public spaces, shops, restaurants, public transport, planes, access university in USA, etc - all of it was and is completely immoral. I'm disgusted by all of it. Just disgusted.





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It's also pretty sad that the German for medical is ärtzliche 😄
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isha wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:57 pm It's also pretty sad that the German for medical is ärtzliche 😄
Hahahahahahahaha
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https://iibr.gov.il/Pages/Who-We-are.aspx

The Israeli Institute of Biological Research, founded 1952. Between 2013 - 2021 Professor Shmuel C Shapira was it's General Director. Well known Professor and Doctor. Involved in Terror medicine and research. Horrid thing to have to do, but I guess it's a medical necessity.



In 2020 Prof Shmuel was awarded number 2 on the list of influential Jews by the Jerusalem Post, because he was heading Israeli research efforts to develop a Covid vaccine.

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He took his Pfizer vaccines and experienced severe adverse effects on the third shot - the booster. Like many people have, even though few are publicised.


He is speaking out about adverse events now and has fallen from his glorious heights as second most influential Jew in 2020, a respected Professor working out of a University hospital, advising the Israeli government frequently on Covid 19, working at the highest levels to develop covid vaccines, to being a censored crazy "anti vaxxer" person.

Sure! He could be mad as a bag of spiders, I know nothing about him. But still. Don't you think they would have noticed before, like when he was doing televised advisories with the Israeli president re covid or ya know, working on a vaccine, like?


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There is little to be said that is not written in the text of this article.
This data should be very concerning for those who intend to take multiple shots of these treatments.

Covid Vaccines Are Killing One in Every 800 Over-60s and Should Be Withdrawn Immediately, Says Leading Vaccine Scientist

Covid vaccine boosters in older people are killing one person for every 800 doses administered and should be withdrawn from use immediately, a leading vaccine scientist has said.

Dr. Theo Schetters, a vaccinologist based in the Netherlands who has played a leading role in the development of a number of vaccines, has analysed the official data from the Dutch Government and found a very close correlation between when fourth vaccine doses were administered in the country and the number of excess deaths, as shown in the chart below. Importantly, in the Netherlands the booster rollout in different regions was staggered over a number of weeks allowing an analysis by region, which confirms the effect.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/04/cov ... scientist/
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