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Trudeau is insufferable. With any luck he'll be joining Adern on the political scrap heap.
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@isha
I had not seen that video clip previously so quite enjoyed it, thanks, especially the theme song which I fondly remember.

:D :D
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PureIsle wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:53 am @isha
I had not seen that video clip previously so quite enjoyed it, thanks, especially the theme song which I fondly remember.

:D :D
At the time another theme song was the 1980s glam rock anthem "We're not gonna take it, No! We ain't gonna take it, we're not gonna take it anymooooooooooore.." and for a week or so while the protest was gathering in Ottawa I annoyed the hell out of my family by randomly breaking out into full on air guitar versions. I was just so ridiculously happy about the protest 😁
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Boardsie Exile wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:08 am Trudeau is insufferable. With any luck he'll be joining Adern on the political scrap heap.
I can't bear him. If I met him I'd give him so many kicks he'd be begging for a slap.
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BBC wanking over the covid deaths in China right now.

But just continue to ignore the 20% excess death rate in the UK and Europe for months now.

But don't worry, it's because people aren't getting their statins ... yeah cos lots of 14 year olds need their statins don't they ?


Lying f*cking scum of an organisation.
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Bishop_Brennan wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:38 pm BBC wanking over the covid deaths in China right now.

But just continue to ignore the 20% excess death rate in the UK and Europe for months now.

But don't worry, it's because people aren't getting their statins ... yeah cos lots of 14 year olds need their statins don't they ?


Lying f*cking scum of an organisation.
Maybe they see your point but have found the cause for the younger age groups ...

https://newspunch.com/scientists-warn-e ... clots/amp/

and here

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/he ... ts-choline
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Caveats first.

Everybody who is sensible hates James O Keefe and Project Veritas.
He is far right.
He doctors videos.
He is deceptive.
He is funded by - gasp - conservatives!
He's just not a nice guy and we hate him.


Jordon Walker doesn't exist.
He is an invented figment of the far right organisations imagination.
If he does exist, he is not a Director at Pfizer.
No one so patently silly could rise to such heights in an esteemed company like Pfizer.
Where are the records of him at Yale? Does he even really doctor, bro?
Why on earth would he shoot his mouth off?
This can't be real..

(Scrub internet, scrub!)


This is a Pfizer + government psyop/honey trap to fool Project Veritas and bring it to its knees in the ensuing litigation. Bwahahahaha. Yasssss. The fools!



Okay. Caveats aside. Check it out.

The basic premise is that Pfizer researcher's are doing DIRECTED EVOLUTION ( nononono, that is NOT the same as GOF sillies! It's got a totally different name see...) on the virus to get ahead of it so their forthcoming vaccines will counter variants. And more.




Before the scrub, Jordon's documentation...
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Yes I watched that video (different source) yesterday.
I could not believe how such a silly sounding/behaving person could be in any position or have even qualified from a higher level of schooling.

Apparently I was wrong.

A real idiot it seems.

Of course what he says Pfizer is doing is unacceptable but is anyone surprised really?
Will this help to expose that they have been doing this for a long long time?
Naw ...
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Posted by Pfizer last night.

We don't, but we do. We just call it something else, and (in an appeal to authority) we are allowed to do it.

On a tangent i noticed that Pfizer, a huge global pharmaceutical corporation providing repeat injectables that are being used by the majority of the people on the planet, sometimes under mandates, don't allow comments on their Twitter posts. No worries, pals.

When/ if reading the statement note that collaborators means "we contract out this work."

On another side note to this particular story, the UK is no longer advising covid shots for people under 50.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/announcemen ... rch-claims
Pfizer Responds to Research Claims
Friday, January 27, 2023 - 08:00pm

New York, N.Y., January 27, 2023 – Allegations have recently been made related to gain of function and directed evolution research at Pfizer and the company would like to set the record straight.

In the ongoing development of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, Pfizer has not conducted gain of function or directed evolution research. Working with collaborators, we have conducted research where the original SARS-CoV-2 virus has been used to express the spike protein from new variants of concern. This work is undertaken once a new variant of concern has been identified by public health authorities. This research provides a way for us to rapidly assess the ability of an existing vaccine to induce antibodies that neutralize a newly identified variant of concern. We then make this data available through peer reviewed scientific journals and use it as one of the steps to determine whether a vaccine update is required.

In addition, to meet U.S. and global regulatory requirements for our oral treatment, PAXLOVID™, Pfizer undertakes in vitro work (e.g., in a laboratory culture dish) to identify potential resistance mutations to nirmatrelvir, one of PAXLOVID’s two components. With a naturally evolving virus, it is important to routinely assess the activity of an antiviral. Most of this work is conducted using computer simulations or mutations of the main protease–a non-infectious part of the virus. In a limited number of cases when a full virus does not contain any known gain of function mutations, such virus may be engineered to enable the assessment of antiviral activity in cells. In addition, in vitro resistance selection experiments are undertaken in cells incubated with SARS-CoV-2 and nirmatrelvir in our secure Biosafety level 3 (BSL3) laboratory to assess whether the main protease can mutate to yield resistant strains of the virus. It is important to note that these studies are required by U.S. and global regulators for all antiviral products and are carried out by many companies and academic institutions in the U.S. and around the world.

Fact-based information rooted in sound science is vitally important to overcoming the COVID-19 pandemic and Pfizer remains committed to transparency and helping alleviate the devastating burden of this disease.
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Note
The statement by Pfizer goes on to confirm that all their shots are authorised under emergency use authorisation. You can scroll to the bottom of the above statement on the site to read about that.

Emergency use authorisation - from the FDA website
An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

Are the conditions for emergency use authorisation still really in play?
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The statement then goes on to talk about adverse events and precautions
IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent (Original and Omicron BA.4/BA.5), COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA), and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine

Tell your vaccination provider about all of your medical conditions, including if you:

• have any allergies
• have had myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)


Etc
• You should not get COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA), the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, or the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent if you have had a severe allergic reaction after a previous dose of COMIRNATY or the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine or any ingredient in these vaccines

• Myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart) have occurred in some people who have received COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA) or Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. The observed risk is higher among adolescent males and adult males under 40 years of age than among females and older males, and the observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. In most of these people, symptoms began within a few days following receipt of the second dose of vaccine. The chance of having this occur is very low.
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I am still trying to figure out what this means in practice
Working with collaborators, we have conducted research where the original SARS-CoV-2 virus has been used to express the spike protein from new variants of concern.
One variant used to express the spike in another variant?
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https://www.army.mod.uk/who-we-are/form ... 7-brigade/

According to a whistleblower the 77th Brigade of the British army conducted surveillance on politicians and influential media figures and monitored the social media accounts of citizens who criticised or opposed the UK governments handling of Covid.

This was admitted in parliamentary questions in May 2020. But very little was made of it while citizens were being influenced to be wholly in the grip of fear. A fuller account is given now by a whistleblower in everyone's favourite newspaper 😏 we will just have to wait for the posher papers to report to know it's really the true true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tched.html
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Don't know why, maybe because it's a grey rainy Sunday in January and it's not my favourite season, but I'm having dark memories...This time last year Italy had banned the "unvaccinated" from public transport, in Slovakia they couldn't enter most shops and all shopping malls and had to find ways to shop outdoors, and Austria was planning to make it law to fine the "unvaccinated" 3600 - 7200 euros. And most people in Europe didn't give a single damn.
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isha wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:11 am Are the conditions for emergency use authorisation still really in play?
I suspect this is exactly why terms like immunity, immunisation, vaccines and vaccination etc have been redefined, and why all approvals for the vaccines still say "to prevent Covid-19" even though the dogs in the street know it doesn't prevent Covid-19.

Updating the approvals to something more honest like "reduce the chances of hospitalisation or death from Covid 19" would seriously undermine the credibility of the emergency use authorisation.

I believe it's also why there was such fanatical resistance against repurposing any other drugs to treat covid - eg Ivermectin.
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Oh nothing. Just Molnupiravir mutating the virus. Report In Science magazine.

https://www.science.org/content/article ... e-pandemic
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Oh nothing. Just the Pfizer Director who was punked saying something does seem to be up with menstrual cycles and hopefully it's not because the vaccines are interfering with hormones or the mRNA is lingering in the body, because whoops that'd be bad like, I dunno...

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Gates doing his 'thing' .......... bought a lot of shares in company; hyped up that company's products; watched the share price rise, and when he judged that the hype was running down sold the shares and then began to talk down the products.
More millions made!

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defe ... e-profits/
... comments last week by billionaire and vaccine investor Bill Gates, who criticized the efficacy and durability of the vaccines during a talk at Australia’s Lowy Institute.
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This looks promising ... but what next?

https://usforthem2020.substack.com/p/pf ... ild-safety
Misleading statements about safety

Among his explicit and implicit encouragements for the UK to order more of his company’s shots, Dr Bourla commented emphatically about the merits of vaccinating children under 12 years of age, saying “[So] there is no doubt in my mind that the benefits, completely are in favour of doing it [vaccinating 5 to 11 year olds in the UK and Europe]”. No mention of risks or potential adverse events, nor indeed the weighing of any factors other than apparent benefits: Dr Bourla was straightforwardly convinced that we should immunise millions more children in the UK. In fact, it later emerged that the BBC's article had misquoted Dr Bourla who in the full video interview recording had ventured the benefits to be “completely completely” in favour of vaccinating young children.

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Just spotted a preview paper from John Ionnidis which indicates that the IFR pre-vax was even lower than was thought. He had done some work way back, IIRC, coming up with a figure of 0.15%.
The IFRs had a median of 0.035% (interquartile range (IQR) 0.013 - 0.056%) for the 0-59 years old population, and 0.095% (IQR 0.036 - 0.125%,) for the 0-69 years old. The median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years. Including data from another 9 countries with imputed age distribution of COVID-19 deaths yielded median IFR of 0.025-0.032% for 0-59 years and 0.063-0.082% for 0-69 years. Meta-regression analyses also suggested global IFR of 0.03% and 0.07%, respectively in these age groups. The current analysis suggests a much lower pre-vaccination IFR in non-elderly populations than previously suggested.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 963v1.full
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... port-covid
The authorities said the lifting of the requirement had been made possible thanks to Spain’s high vaccination rates.
“The efficacy of the vaccines – which are estimated to be 90% effective in preventing serious cases and deaths from Covid-19 – and the high rate of coverage achieved have led to an important change in Covid-19’s epidemiology in our country.”
So nothing to do with Omicron and natural immunity then.

The lies and bullshit above is INCREDIBLE..

If there was one journalist with any balls they'd ask her why 14 months ago with similar vaccine % - did they re introduce the mask law OUTSIDE ???

The people are sociopathic scummy liars.
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https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/ ... 0572-8#%20
David M. Morens
Jeffery K. Taubenberger
Anthony S. Fauci
As of 2022, after more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted. As pointed out decades ago, and still true today, the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.
It makes very interesting reading, but for those who prefer to read others views on this paper try this (which has further links embedded)

https://www.hartgroup.org/fauci-confess ... s-claimed/
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Newsflash guys and gals, natural immunity has rejoined human evolution after a couple of years of sad absence.

🙄😏

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415
Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.
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isha wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:56 am Newsflash guys and gals, natural immunity has rejoined human evolution after a couple of years of sad absence.

🙄😏

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 5/fulltext

Yes, and natural immunity does that without harming the body.
Great is it not that we have a system that protects us without toxins?

Now that this is all settled ( :D ) it is time to pick some other traditional vaccine and see how well the approval was done and how its safety and efficacy was determined.
That should prove to be an interesting rabbit hole for anyone who is prepared to venture there. :D :lol: :D
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My personal view at this time:

We all failed to realise, from the beginning, the implications of this virus being a Coronavirus. These viruses, after infection, do not impart immunity to the host for subsequent infection by that virus or others of the same type.
What the virus itself does not do we somehow expected this 'magic' injection to achieve.
Of course there were reasons for that ... mostly because we were led to believe it by those advising us.

Consider this .... what percentage of the population takes an influenza vaccination each year?
Is there some, as yet unstated medical reason, why more than those people would be expected to take the Cov-2 shot? I do not think so. Of course the fear factor, hammered into us all during the whole episode, had a huge influence.

From the numbers appearing in many publications, the number of deaths attributed to Covid alone is in the same ballpark as a 'bad flu'. That implies to me, if there are a lot more deaths attributed to this virus, then some other factors are at play and I can think of three as I write this:

1. Treatment .... treatment was withheld until hospitalisation, which was too late for many.
2. The manner in which the deaths were attributed. Previous flu deaths were not labelled as "flu-type".
3. The population's overall health. It is likely from all I have read that the overall health is declining every year.

The big one, IMO, is that lack of timely treatment. Heck my own doctor told me she would not treat me if I got infected and strongly advised me to take the jab. She said that directly to me while telling me I am in the "very vulnerable cohort"! I can tell you that is one eye-opener!

So I did the best I could, even buying a small amount of Ivermectin, and taking a range of supplements, particularly D3.
I did get blood tests done and that same doctor told me my levels were too high and stop taking D3 as it could damage me. My max hit 101 nm/ml?. My aim was 125 max and very happy to be a little below that. (of course I ignored her advice)

I might have gotten infected with the virus in Jan 2022. I definitely was developing a strong 'cold', with the usual sniffles and sore throat. I attended to it as I normally would, but this time with the addition of IVM. It lasted less than a week and I continued to function during the period.
I have no idea if I ever was infected with SARS-COV-2 as I was never tested ... but then those tests are so unreliable as to be useless.

My only conclusion is that the vast majority of doctors failed their patients.
Those doctors are culpable for many avoidable deaths IMO.
They should be held personally responsible. They had choices.

The other lot of fear-mongers ... I fail to find the words to express what I think of this despicable crowd ... including media, politicians as well as our "health gurus".

/rant
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