This morning I read some info from Pierre Kory who said that Delta-infected ICU patients are crashing harder and faster, in the experience of his colleagues, and it freaked me out a bit. So much so that I booked an appointment for the Jannsen vaccine in 2 weeks on the basis that I would have to really think harder about all this.
Two other bits of info or input happened today - which sway me in both directions alternately. So, no clearer today and the quest goes on...
I happened to hear a Professor of Immunology on the Last Word, cannot remember who he was, I almost never listen to Covid stuff on the radio, but I was driving and thought okay, let's hear what he says. It was about the kids 12- 15 getting vaccinated. He was asked what are the reasons they should be. And he proceeded to speak down to people with these utterly unscientific reasons - I am paraphrasing from memory and think I have got the gist
1) He said it is true that children very VERY rarely get a complicated case of Covid but do you really want to be that parent who has let their child run the risk of being that extremely rare case? (This to me is an appalling abuse of a risk / benefit analysis; by couching it solely in emotive condescension he has ruined his argument)
2) Do you want your child to be the one that carries this disease to vulnerable members in your family? (This is more emotive coercion bullshit - transmission is proven to happen post-vaccine)
3) He said I am sure you want your child to be able to play sports, go to the cinema, socialise with their friends, and now with the advent of vaccine passports, do you want to impede them? (This is incredibly bad - he is using coercive govt policy mechanisms that are not based on science due to continued viral transmission as a substitute for scientific reasons to vaccinate your child! He goes on about how the vaccine companies have been doing or starting 6 month trials for children. 6 month trials! There can be no long term data from those for children with the whole of their lives ahead of them.)
If this is the level of info people have been getting all along via the public media, this is just propaganda. I was frankly amazed.
The other info/input that impressed me (variably yay and nay) was from an article in the Times of Israel. Note 6,275 people tested positive for COVID in Israel yesterday, with a positive test rate of 4.84%, which is as high as it was in February. Just under 60% of Israel's TOTAL population (including children) is fully vaccinated. That in itself gives one pause.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/among-old ... accinated/
That is pretty massive information. In both age groups vaccination is undoubtedly helping on an individual level when it comes to serious disease but the benefit is BY FAR greater for people who are older. Multiples of times greater. Not only does it continue to be the case that older people are much more at risk from Covid but also the risk/benefit analysis of vaccination is completely different in different age groups and (I would add) if there are co-morbidities.Health Ministry data shows that among Israelis aged 60-plus, there are 16.6 people per 100,000 in serious condition. Among the unvaccinated the figure is 98.5.
For every 100,000 people under 60 who are not vaccinated, 1.6 are in serious condition with the coronavirus. Among the fully vaccinated the figure is 0.5.
Anyways. Keeping my options open.
He's caught covid three times? Was this confirmed by testing G? I know someone who caught it twice(confirmed) about ten months apart and someone else who caught it last year and last month an antibody test showed nada so it seems immunity drops right off with this pox and quickly. But three times... jaysus. 
