Return of the Mac wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:20 pm
So in your mind what would Ireland outside the EU look like
I said disentangling.... We're better off alone,rather be conscripted by the left to die for the EU,once the triple lock is gone,they'll have lit the torch paper by ripping up parts of Lisbon treaty,we will then have every right to push for disengagement and dismantling rest of European treaties voted for by public here
It's long since time the screw was turned on this blind acceptance of the EU while blindly ignoring how bad and hypocritical most of the EU policies are....this blind leftist propaganda that the EU can't be critiqued and we've to accept it and can't ever change our relationship over treaties is at last coming to an end with the removal of the triple lock
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Setanta wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:08 pm
I said disentangling.... We're better off alone,rather be conscripted by the left to die for the EU,once the triple lock is gone,they'll have lit the torch paper by ripping up parts of Lisbon treaty,we will then have every right to push for disengagement and dismantling rest of European treaties voted for by public here
It's long since time the screw was turned on this blind acceptance of the EU while blindly ignoring how bad and hypocritical most of the EU policies are....this blind leftist propaganda that the EU can't be critiqued and we've to accept it and can't ever change our relationship over treaties is at last coming to an end with the removal of the triple lock
So you want us to remain in the EU but rip up the treaties which underpin us being a member. OK. Keep dreaming
Return of the Mac wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:18 pm
So you want us to remain in the EU but rip up the treaties which underpin us being a member. OK. Keep dreaming
Meh....I mean the establishment here,are actively ripping up parts of treaties that people voted for already.....so it's open ground for anyone else to do so now,and they haven't a leg to stand on anymore
The left have handed nationlists their greatest victory in generations,the campaign to disentangle our septic one way, toxic relationship with the EU likely begins before Easter,long overdue after what was done to Ireland during the bailouts
Edit: seen Von Der lyon is actively approving countries breaching budget deficit rules, another treaty pushed through by an unquestioning media here.....if they can do it, any and all treaties become open ground,rules apply to all,or none
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Setanta wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:23 pm
Meh....I mean the establishment here,are actively ripping up parts of treaties that people voted for already.....so it's open ground for anyone else to do so now,and they haven't a leg to stand on anymore
The left have handed nationlists their greatest victory in generations,the campaign to disentangle our septic one way, toxic relationship with the EU likely begins before Easter,long overdue after what was done to Ireland during the bailouts
Edit: seen Von Der lyon is actively approving countries breaching budget deficit rules, another treaty pushed through by an unquestioning media here.....if they can do it, any and all treaties become open ground,rules apply to all,or none
Return of the Mac wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:08 pm
So do you want us in or out of the EU
I think I'm open to the marketplace of ideas and see what treaties it suits us to disentangle to avoid anymore bailing out banks,destroying society,facing down leftists,or sending our people off to die/kill for the EU
If we can do away with the treble lock after people voting for it,we are free to elect further governments,over time,to begin the process of dismantling our entanglement in what has gotten out of control,and strayed well away from what people voted for.....this blind,unquestioning devotion the left and media here have fostered towards EU needs to be faced down,it's been a disaster
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Good news, Zelenskyy changing his tune from last week. A framework for peace is finally in place. My own mentioned of war of attrition or endless war in this thread dozens of times finally confirmed by Zelenskyy himself.
knownunknown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:41 pm
Good news, Zelenskyy changing his tune from last week. A framework for peace is finally in place. My own mentioned of war of attrition or endless war in this thread dozens of times finally confirmed by Zelenskyy himself.
Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees
Can't see this ending well,they've decided to sell their countries future to serve US masters without any guarantee....21st century imperialism in all it's glory
They should remember the free staters sold there grubby treaty signing away the north as a stepping stone to full independence and simply refused to step any further along the track, leaving part of our country occupied to this day
Millions of Ukrainians dead,even more scattered likely to never return,their future signed over to US masters,for a deal worth less than what was reputedly on offer 3 days into the war,before Boris Johnson convinced em to reject it,a microcosm of everything wrong with modern leftism
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Setanta wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:58 pm
Can't see this ending well,they've decided to sell their countries future to serve US masters without any guarantee....21st century imperialism in all it's glory
They should remember the free staters sold there grubby treaty signing away the north as a stepping stone to full independence and simply refused to step any further along the track, leaving part of our country occupied to this day
Millions of Ukrainians dead,even more scattered likely to never return,their future signed over to US masters,for a deal worth less than what was reputedly on offer 3 days into the war,before Boris Johnson convinced em to reject it,a microcosm of everything wrong with modern leftism
They signed over their resources(that the u.s. will receive and pay for) for the protection of their country. We sign over ours for a few extra shillings.
knownunknown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:01 pm
They signed over their resources(that the u.s. will receive and pay for) for the protection of their country. We sign over ours for a few extra shillings.
The US has not agreed thus far to protect their country....such a magnitude of a decision should be put to a referendum,they are essentially selling their countries future, with no guarantees either
Quite the feat really by America,put them in such a position theyve to choose between serving them or Russia,who are racist against Ukrainian to such an extent they have degoratory term for Ukrainians.....this is no win for Ukraine,a bad day all round for euro leftists,Irish establishment and dronies, imperialism and trumpism won out in the end,
while European food and electricity prices ramped out of control after the gas pipe line bombing by the yanks (admittedly this was bidens doing),making everyone here functionally poorer....a fairly damning indictment of the EU as an institution
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Setanta wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:34 pm
The US has not agreed thus far to protect their country....such a magnitude of a decision should be put to a referendum,they are essentially selling their countries future, with no guarantees either
They now have a vested interest in Ukraine, if Russia takes over they get nothing. Look how far the U.S. went to protect the Saudis for all this time.
They changed this because they dispise our people....6 counties occupied and they'll do nothing to end it....but pack Irish soldiers off to be slaughtered for NATO whose members feck each over all the time
It's very interesting,that people voted for the triple lock as part of Lisbon treaty,but the public were banned from voting on ending it...
An important pint to note,on efforts to further enmesh Ireland into EU,we can now elect governments to walk away from what public previously voted for,and have an actual proper examination of what we want from Europe,if it requires Irish troops to kill and die for it....time to make this an electoral issue from here forward and begin dismantling the cozy consensus on direction of the eu
There's a glimmer of light in the absolute shambles the left have embroiled us into,from the ashes of our neutrality,we can break away and water down our enmeshment into Europe
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Russian troops trekked 12 km,hunched over through tunnels to launch an attack in Kursk.... promptly walked into an ambush
The audacity of it,was incredible.....it damn near trapped 10,000 Ukrainian troops in Kursk,which should be adbandoned by now,it's wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine,it's wrong for Ukraine to invade parts of russia
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
It's very interesting,that people voted for the triple lock as part of Lisbon treaty,but the public were banned from voting on ending it...
An important pint to note,on efforts to further enmesh Ireland into EU,we can now elect governments to walk away from what public previously voted for,and have an actual proper examination of what we want from Europe,if it requires Irish troops to kill and die for it....time to make this an electoral issue from here forward and begin dismantling the cozy consensus on direction of the eu
That is interesting, I didn’t know about and just had to research. It was long enshrined in law before those treaties, but we were told that once these treaties were signed it wouldn’t be able to be changed. Wait until we send troops to the wrong place for the wrong reason, perhaps the Middle East, then there will truly be a backlash.
knownunknown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:32 pm
That is interesting, I didn’t know about and just had to research. It was long enshrined in law before those treaties, but we were told that once these treaties were signed it wouldn’t be able to be changed. Wait until we send troops to the wrong place for the wrong reason, perhaps the Middle East, then there will truly be a backlash.
Further to this,the left and media here,to underscore how much they dispise the general public here,push a line that the UN security council have a veto over Irish peacekeeping,when this law was changed in 2016, arguably shouldn't have been allowed without a referendum IMO.....
but this lie is pushed unquestioned by the media to force public to comply with doing away with neutrality,it's now more than ever we need to prepare to water down our enmeshment into Europe,it's been a disaster,going from a trading/economic/free movement block to now ending Irish neutrality as Germany rearms itself
I do better out of EU membership than 99% of the population,I have no interest in dying for it,and certainly don't think anyone else should either....it's simply not worth it
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
Setanta wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:27 am
Russian troops trekked 12 km,hunched over through tunnels to launch an attack in Kursk.... promptly walked into an ambush
The audacity of it,was incredible.....it damn near trapped 10,000 Ukrainian troops in Kursk,which should be adbandoned by now,it's wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine,it's wrong for Ukraine to invade parts of russia
An ambush implies that the opposing forces were expecting them.
If that was the case they could have destroyed them during the 4 days they spent in the pipe.
So I am not inclined to believe that in the least.
From what I read the 'pipe excursion' was very successful and damn near split the UA line, to such an extent that one part of it is now in serious danger of being stuck with no way out.
Interesting development,can't see the US walking away from Ukraine,as they are serving their interests to an astonishing degree degrading the Russian army and resources,while costing yanks little or nothing
Unless trump will change military doctrine of the US and keep the aging weaponry on its asset sheet,to prop up it's economy,the flow of weapons will continue to the Ukraine IMHO
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein
If war hinges on whoever develops new technology faster/better than others, particularly wars of attrition
Have Ukraine steeped ahead of Russia??...with it's home produced long range drones, regularly hitting 650km plus inside Russia,most notably destroying the fibre optic cable plant recently and now shooting down a fighter jet at start of an summer offensive......the demise of the fibre optic drones,has stalled Russia on the front line,and they are less willing for slog fears and bloodbaths along front now aswell ......this war is peetering out
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players." - Jock Stein