Anyone still glued to this?

[PureIsle]

I had not heard the rumours referred to in this clip before I posted above



I doubt Zelensky will be ousted at this time .... but maybe he will not last much lnger.

[Setanta]

Ukraine carried out a fairly complex attack on russian airfield.... infiltrating Russia and knocking out one airfield of fighters and long range bombers,....looks like theyve stopped trying to take land back,and are concentrating on attacks inside Russia,having carried out a truck bombing at far east Russia last week?

[PureIsle]

Ukraine carried out a fairly complex attack on russian airfield.... infiltrating Russia and knocking out one airfield of fighters and long range bombers,....looks like theyve stopped trying to take land back,and are concentrating on attacks inside Russia,having carried out a truck bombing at far east Russia last week?

Those who carry out terrorist attacks ...... dressed as civilians ...... could have very short life spans if caught inside Russia.
That would include those who blew up two bridges while civilian trains were passing - 1 over and 1 under.

The drone attacks on Russian nuclear carrying aircraft are very problematic. Multiple planes damaged.
If the planes were armed it could have meant an immediate nuclear response, which would not end well for anyone.

It must be admitted though, that, like some previous Ukr actions, there was a lot of thought, planning and preparation carried out to achieve such 'success'. Who planned it is a question I would like answered!

Things are playing out like Ukr is nearing the end. If this be so then Ru had best wake up to the inevitable terrorist campaign that will be carried out by those who do not accept defeat. Probably they will be helped by some 'foreigners'.
So far Ru has not been ahead of this type of action, although I commonly read reports of small groups of terrorists/infiltrators being taken-in/captured by Ru along with their arms/bombs.

IMO, the 'end of the war' will be the beginning of a different kind of conflict, where Ru will suffer a lot of 'terrorist' activity.

[knownunknown]

Why have they changed the mechanism around the triple lock? My guess is to send troops to Ukraine.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/604 ... he%20State.

Called it. In a recent interview Martin explains why he changed his position on the triple lock, because of Russia and Ukraine.

[Setanta]

Trump is going sending patriot missiles via NATO to the Ukraine.....after realising Putin deosnt want peace (allegedly said he intended to intensify operations for next two months)

I'm still finding it hard to see Ukraine force Russia out,without outside assistance, they've probably mastered the defensive structure required for large scale defences, alongside the relative inexperience of russian troops makes a large scale collapse on either side,unlikely now I feel.......it's effective military stalemate and in hands of politicians now

[PureIsle]

I think Putin does want peace ..... but here is the rub ...... not at any cost ....... he will not concede one bit from the aims of the SMO, and 'the West' just cannot accept those terms.

As far as I can tell Ru terms have not changed one bit since the start of the SMO, except that whatever they take during the conflict they are highly unlikely to give back.
Where it will stop appears to be depenant on how soon Ukraine gives in. That could well be after they have lost a lot more.

The danger of course is if some country (Germany?) provides long range missiles and the manpower and technology to accurately aim them, that Ru will (as Putin and others have said) consider that a declaration of war on Ru by the country.
That IMO, is one of the main reasons Trump will not supply UA directly with such weapons.

[kadman]

Trump is keen to send patriot missile systems, because its money into us coffers. He doesnt care whether Uknriane foots the bill or the Eu or Nato Money is money no mater where it comes from. The fact that Israel kills off civilians is immaterial. Thats what collateral damage is, its another term for innocent people. For the US its all about the bottom line....dollars.

[Setanta]

Zelensky coming under pressure after anti corruption reforms,has taken to hinting at an offensive,but nothing exists to suggest they can underpin one now


Meanwhile the Russians have taken to pocket attacks, funneling small numbers through holes in front line defence,and attacking from behind/taking buildings and drawing resources to expel.them.....pure suicide tactics,and difficult to believe they have resorted to this,

[Jequ0n]

Trump is keen to send patriot missile systems, because its money into us coffers. He doesnt care whether Uknriane foots the bill or the Eu or Nato Money is money no mater where it comes from. The fact that Israel kills off civilians is immaterial. Thats what collateral damage is, its another term for innocent people. For the US its all about the bottom line....dollars.

We will probably disagree on this point but I find it hard to disagree with some of his approaches to foreign conflicts such as this one. The war has been going on for years with no end in sight for now. It’s not unreasonable to think of ways how you/ your country can benefit from the situation. Politics and business are inevitably interlinked which many “idealistic” politians tend to forget.

[kadman]

We will probably disagree on this point but I find it hard to disagree with some of his approaches to foreign conflicts such as this one. The war has been going on for years with no end in sight for now. It’s not unreasonable to think of ways how you/ your country can benefit from the situation. Politics and business are inevitably interlinked which many “idealistic” politians tend to forget.

I dont disagree at all.

Trump is a business man first, and not a humanitarian president. he sees an opportunity for making money for his multi billionaire friends. Thats what he is doing. He is not really interested whether it benefits US society, financially or morally. Its about his bottom line.
Its what businessmen do, you have to be ruthless to be a successful business man, and thats what he is.

[kadman]

He was also found to be a criminal by the US justice system.

[Jequ0n]

He was also found to be a criminal by the US justice system.

Kind of irrelevant.

I agree with your assessment on him being a business man first and foremost. And quite honestly, why not use the opportunity.

[kadman]

Kind of irrelevant.

I agree with your assessment on him being a business man first and foremost. And quite honestly, why not use the opportunity.

That depends whether you are looking with a moral view or business view. In his case he has been rewarded by not being jailed. Something that our government seems to follow. Reward for criminality I mean. But thats another thread .

[Jequ0n]

That depends whether you are looking with a moral view or business view. In his case he has been rewarded by not being jailed. Something that our government seems to follow. Reward for criminality I mean. But thats another thread .

You know my view on this. But yes, probably its own thread.

[NewBroom]

How long I wonder can Mr.Trump keep treating the rest of the world like idiots on the matter of this war? How many warnings & extensions is he prepared to give to Mr.Putin? Has he an inexhaustible supply of meaningless rhetoric?

[knownunknown]

How long I wonder can Mr.Trump keep treating the rest of the world like idiots on the matter of this war? How many warnings & extensions is he prepared to give to Mr.Putin? Has he an inexhaustible supply of meaningless rhetoric?

He recently announced new sanctions for Russia, while admitting he thought this conflict would be the easiest to resolve, but it’s turning out to be the most challenging.



I think this means we’re going to see a change of strategy by putting on maximum pressure. So far he’s been under the impression he was dealing with a rational and sane person person in Moscow who doesn’t play games.

Remember no wars ever started under his presidency. He castigated Zelenskyy publicly to begin with, but now seems to be fully in his camp having recently realized that this is all a game for Putin, who has no inclination to end this war.

It’ll get done, or there will be hell to pay

Let’s be honest here though, if it weren’t for Europeans buying Russian gas, this conflict would have been over a long time ago.

US demands EU stops buying Russian gas if it wants new sanctions on Putin

[PureIsle]

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Let’s be honest here though, if it weren’t for Europeans buying Russian gas, this conflict would have been over a long time ago.

US demands EU stops buying Russian gas if it wants new sanctions on Putin

In what way do you envisage the conflict would have stopped if Europeans stopped buying Russian gas?

Its not quite clear to me and I don't wish to misinterpret what you posted, thanks.

[Dubit10]

All that's happening is Russia being pushed further into China's sphere of influence. That's a very bad thing for the west

[knownunknown]

In what way do you envisage the conflict would have stopped if Europeans stopped buying Russian gas?

Its not quite clear to me and I don't wish to misinterpret what you posted, thanks.

They would have less money to fund the pensions of their dying soldiers. The US and the EU are applying pressure on Russia with economic sanctions, which don’t make a blind bit of difference if we still buy their energy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62zxp1y5lwo

[PureIsle]

They would have less money to fund the pensions of their dying soldiers. The US and the EU are applying pressure on Russia with economic sanctions, which don’t make a blind bit of difference if we still buy their energy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62zxp1y5lwo

Yes, if EU stopped buying Ru energy supplies it would have an impact on the Ru economy.
It would not be terminal.
Any claim that this would stop the conflict is baseless.

The conflict never needed to happen in the first place if Hollande and Merkle had upheld their committment to ensure the agreement was acted upon.

[PureIsle]

Trumps attempts to influence Russian's 'friends' with tarriffs and sanctions appears to have gotten USA into a bit of a pickle.
USA is still buying from Ru (nuclear materials) which makes Trump's calls for Europe to not buy anything seem a bit strange, unless of course you consider Europe to be subservient to USA.

But in response to Trumps actions against China, the Chinese have hit their exports of rare metals hard, which considering their hugely dominant position in the market, seems to have pannicked Trump to declaring he will raise by 100% his tarriffs on Chinese goods in response.

He would do well to remember that the USA is a predominently military state, and that they require large amounts of rare metals to keep that going.

Meanwhile the decision to supply Europe with long range missiles seems to be in limbo. Possibly the Ru response is a concern - they are likely to take it as a declaration of war on Ru by the country supplying the missiles to UA.
Possibly even more concerning is the declaration from Ru that they have developed even newer missiles which will be ready for use very soon. Something bigger/better that the Oreshnik?