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Presidential Election 2025

Gatsbygirl
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Statsman wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:00 pm Paul Murphy is suing HH for defamation.

What a complete shambles FG have made of this.
Totally. An omni-shambles. Disaster follows disaster. (Not that I can stand Paul Murphy and deprecate his weasel-like behaviour at Jobstown.)
midlander12
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Gatsbygirl wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 10:46 am It's done and dusted. Next week will be boring.

(Unless there is a Gavin-style piece of drama, which is doubtful)
Unless people forget there's a little formality they have to turn up for on Friday. Anyway, let's hope the voters get whatever they think they're voting for.

I wonder will a betting market open on the margin of victory. Reagan 1984 or Nixon 1972? Or worse?
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Dubit10 wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:02 pm Worst election in my lifetime with two awful candidates. Will be spoiling my vote and voting Steen number 1.
I don't think the establishment will take much notice of spoiled votes.

Pick the least worst candidate and vote for them.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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This is incredibly bad for FG, albeit with a smaller sample. But leaking 30% FPV is not great.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Brabantje wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:20 pm

This is incredibly bad for FG, albeit with a smaller sample. But leaking 30% FPV is not great.
Connolly, like Michael D, will have support right across the political party spectrum

Voters who would never have dreamed of voting Labour, had no trouble voting for Michael D

When you can break through that barrier as a Presidential candidate, you've got it made

And Connolly seems to have done that.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Things just actually got worse for HH

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/101 ... humphreys/
Mr Murphy said he had no comment to make on the lodgment of the defamation proceedings for now.


The proceedings were lodged by Paul Murphy yesterday.
Ms Humphreys said that she accepted the decision of the courts, following news that Mr Murphy had begun defamation proceedings against her.

She said that she was disappointed that he would take legal proceedings against her.
Now on one level, I'm not a fan of politicians suing other politicians, but on the other hand I'm not a fan of politicians (and some in the media) shooting from the hip consequence free either.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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I won't be voting for either candidate as im spoiling my vote but from the polling results so far it's Connelly by a landslide. The country is so far to the left it's incredible.
Spoil the vote
midlander12
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Dubit10 wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:08 pm I won't be voting for either candidate as im spoiling my vote but from the polling results so far it's Connelly by a landslide. The country is so far to the left it's incredible.
If that were true, they'd be in Government Buildings already. Admittedly, FF/FG won last year against the international run of play, and there's a distinct whiff of Major 1992 or Cameron 2015 about the current set-up. But a party made up Catherine Connolly clones would be lucky to take 10 seats in a GE. The left have profited from FF and FG and (let's not forget) the various right-wing outfits making a complete balls of their respective nomination processes.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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midlander12 wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:45 pm If that were true, they'd be in Government Buildings already. Admittedly, FF/FG won last year against the international run of play, and there's a distinct whiff of Major 1992 or Cameron 2015 about the current set-up. But a party made up Catherine Connolly clones would be lucky to take 10 seats in a GE. The left have profited from FF and FG and (let's not forget) the various right-wing outfits making a complete balls of their respective nomination processes.
What the last election and Catherine Connelly's apparent sweep to victory might be telling us:

(1) The majority of voters don't want a Left government, or a government made up solely of left wing parties. They might have issues around the economy, etc. Who knows? Anyway, when real stuff is at stake, they are cautious and tend to stick with the status quo.

(2) But when it comes to voting for the largely ceremonial and toothless role of the Presidency, to salve their consciences and to give harmless vent to their inner Lefty, they prefer to vote for a Left candidate in the mould of Michael D and Catherine Connolly.

That might be what's going on here.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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The Humphrey's excuse for a campaign is coming unstuck at a rate of knots. As someone who cannot abide FG this is a good thing.
That passed the time.
It would have passed in any case.
Yes, but not so rapidly
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Gatsbygirl wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 6:43 pm What the last election and Catherine Connelly's apparent sweep to victory might be telling us:

(1) The majority of voters don't want a Left government, or a government made up solely of left wing parties. They might have issues around the economy, etc. Who knows? Anyway, when real stuff is at stake, they are cautious and tend to stick with the status quo.

(2) But when it comes to voting for the largely ceremonial and toothless role of the Presidency, to salve their consciousness and to give harmless vent to their inner Lefty, they prefer to vote for a Left candidate in the mould of Michael D and Catherine Connolly.

That might be what's going on here.
That's definitely what's going on. That said, if the left get their act together they should win the next GE. 'If' being the operative word. This was the easy bit, and their opponents left them an open goal.
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Think the general election result, and this election result (assuming CC wins with kind of margin polls suggest), tells us that (a) the electorate are mightily pissed off with FFG in government and (b) they don't trust the existing opposition to do a better job in government.

The country is crying out for a credible Progressive Democrats sort of alternative. Not far right/left headbangers or religious zealots, just competent people we can have some sort of confidence in voting for.

I am hoping a landslide win for CC in Presidential election might be the catalyst to finally get this ball rolling despite the many hurdles.
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Presidential candidate calls for Irish unity preparation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rvr5lp5ppo

Cross-party committee had asked the Irish government for a green paper and to set out steps towards unity. That hasn't happened, unfortunately, Connolly said.
Article 3 of the (Republic of Ireland's) constitution has set out that it's the firm will of the Irish people, with consent and with all diversity and all different communities that we would have a united Ireland.
I think we need to prepare for that, the government needs to prepare for that.
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Back on politicsie some of us agreed that Sean Kelly would be a better candidate for FG. But it looks like Kelly would be badly trailing Connolly even if he were the candidate.
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What is Paul Murphy's defamation case about exactly, I know it has something to do with the time he was charged with false imprisonment etc but what was the defamatory statement he claims?
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Bubblypop wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 10:57 pm What is Paul Murphy's defamation case about exactly, I know it has something to do with the time he was charged with false imprisonment etc but what was the defamatory statement he claims?
I don't think anyone is going to repeat the allegations, but suffice to say she repeated it after a "legal clarification" from the presenter.
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Brabantje wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:15 pm I don't think anyone is going to repeat the allegations, but suffice to say she repeated it after a "legal clarification" from the presenter.
Ok, do we know what is on his statement to the court? Like what he is claiming as defamation?
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Bubblypop wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:23 pm Ok, do we know what is on his statement to the court? Like what he is claiming as defamation?
No idea. Doubt that's made public within hours.

But here is a massive irony.

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Bubblypop wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:23 pm Ok, do we know what is on his statement to the court? Like what he is claiming as defamation?
It's obviously got to be the references to him specifically looking and trapping Joan Burton in the car. Don't think he has actually gone to the court yet, just threatened to in legal letter, contents of which have been reported:
In the letter, Mr Murphy’s legal team said Ms Humphreys had accused him of engaging in “violent criminal conduct”, that he had committed “an act of gender-based violence” and that he was a “misogynist."

Mr Murphy’s solicitors added Ms Humphreys' comments were “grossly defamatory” and he had “suffered in his character and reputation."

The letter adds Mr Murphy had been exposed to “odium, ridicule, and contempt."
I would have thought Paul Murphy would be well used to “odium, ridicule, and contempt" at this stage on this matter and many others.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41725032.html
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Why ask a candidate 'do you believe in God'?
There must be some way out of here
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Statsman wrote: Fri Oct 17, 2025 8:44 am Why ask a candidate 'do you believe in God'?
It's RTE.
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The Irish Syria Solidarity Movement (ISSM) said it was misleading for Ms Connolly to state she had met Palestinians in Syria given, it said, she could only have met those supportive of the Assad regime.


Catherine Connolly pictured with man linked to war crimes in Syria

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/202 ... otos-show/
That passed the time.
It would have passed in any case.
Yes, but not so rapidly
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Socthesecond wrote: Fri Oct 17, 2025 9:41 am The Irish Syria Solidarity Movement (ISSM) said it was misleading for Ms Connolly to state she had met Palestinians in Syria given, it said, she could only have met those supportive of the Assad regime.


Catherine Connolly pictured with man linked to war crimes in Syria

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/202 ... otos-show/
We're going to have a Tankie president.
There must be some way out of here
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Seems so.
That passed the time.
It would have passed in any case.
Yes, but not so rapidly
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Socthesecond wrote: Fri Oct 17, 2025 10:50 am Seems so.
Clare and Mick on the Council of State?
There must be some way out of here
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