Boris Johnson Steps down as an MP

[DeletedUser]

Right bang of sad reverse snobbery of this thread.

Getting a flashback to when I was beaten up in school for liking Shakespeare, or a now ex friend calling me a “fcking class traitor” for commenting I felt sad for David Cameron on the loss of his son.

[marhay70]

Right bang of sad reverse snobbery of this thread.

Getting a flashback to when I was beaten up in school for liking Shakespeare, or a now ex friend calling me a “fcking class traitor” for commenting I felt sad for David Cameron on the loss of his son.

I'm not sure how that equates with the general attitude on this thread so far, that nobody is sorry to see the back of a liar, cheat, and generally dishonourable character, who has betrayed his party, his people, his queen, his family, and his country and for whom there is no saving grace to be found, at least that's my opinion and seems to be a general consensus, not just on this thread.
If you have a different opinion, of the general character of the man that is, and not just of his flowery prose, then why not air it and see where the discussion goes?

[DeletedUser]

I'm not sure how that equates with the general attitude on this thread so far, that nobody is sorry to see the back of a liar, cheat, and generally dishonourable character, who has betrayed his party, his people, his queen, his family, and his country and for whom there is no saving grace to be found, at least that's my opinion and seems to be a general consensus, not just on this thread.
If you have a different opinion, of the general character of the man that is, and not just of his flowery prose, then why not air it and see where the discussion goes?

Yeah that really puts me right then.

[isha]

I'll put a different opinion then just to be devil's advocate. People like Boris Johnson and Donald Trump were set up by "progressives" (*spits out of mouth sideways at the stupidity of the description*) as figures of hate. It's been like a pantomime the last eight to ten years, with the gooder than good guys facing off against the baddest evilest populist politicians the world could ever invent. Which is a load of shyte. Biden is as corrupt as Trump if not more so. Borises replacement is literally married to the richest person in the UK, so basically an Emperor. And good fecken luck with Keir Starmer coming in to save the day. In spite of the tsunamis of endless propaganda about who is good and who is evil there's not a rizla papers worth of difference between any of the gobshytes.

[marhay70]

Yeah that really puts me right then.

If you want to have the discussion, I'm open to it. If you just want to be argumentative, forget it.

[marhay70]

I'll put a different opinion then just to be devil's advocate. People like Boris Johnson and Donald Trump were set up by "progressives" (*spits out of mouth sideways at the stupidity of the description*) as figures of hate. It's been like a pantomime the last eight to ten years, with the gooder than good guys facing off against the baddest evilest populist politicians the world could ever invent. Which is a load of shyte. Biden is as corrupt as Trump if not more so. Borises replacement is literally married to the richest person in the UK, so basically an Emperor. And good fecken luck with Keir Starmer coming in to save the day. In spite of the tsunamis of endless propaganda about who is good and who is evil there's not a rizla papers worth of difference between any of the gobshytes.

You're probably right Isha, I don't have much faith in politicians myself and we don't have to stray from our own shores to find the corrupt ones but at the moment they are still whiter than white. If and when, ( more likely the latter). the weight of evidence comes in as heavily against the Bidens, Starmers, and Sunaks as It currently is against Johnson and Trump, then I would hope there will be no hiding place for them either.

[isha]

Sunaks wifes business interests got a load of covid business. Plus check out Infosys .
Biden is so corrupt people simply can't believe it , so they don't acknowledge it - the amount of millions channeled to him personally via companies like Burisma and from places like China for access and influence is mind boggling, not to mention quashed rape accusations.
And Keir Starmer, the whey faced fool, thinks 0.1% of women have a hairy bollox.
I mean, seriously

[marhay70]

And Keir Starmer, the whey faced fool, thinks 0.1% of women have a hairy bollox.
I mean, seriously

Idiot!! If he watched some of the arts programmes on RT he'd know it's way more than that

[schmittel]

Poor old Boris. He wasn't really cut out to be a Covid PM. He was a politician for the good times - think London Mayor for 2012 Olympics.

No doubt he'll rue his bad luck. In December 2019 he won a thumping majority and three months later it all went to shit when the world got a hard on for locking up its citizens.

It's worth remembering that Johnsons first instincts were more akin to Sweden's approach, he was adamantly against curbing the liberties of the many for the possible benefit of the few.

But he was bullied into going along with the whole lockdown nonsense.

He's a flawed individual for sure, but I've some sympathy for the fact his demise was largely as a result of the fact that he didn't really believe in the draconian laws that public opinion forced him to enforce on others.

Amazingly for all his previous lies and errors of judgment, Boris Johnsons career ended because he lied about disobeying the rules that significantly curtailed peoples civil liberties.

Yet all the politicians who continue to lie about the value, wisdom and efficacy about curtailing those liberties remain lauded for their judgment.

[marhay70]

Poor old Boris. He wasn't really cut out to be a Covid PM. He was a politician for the good times - think London Mayor for 2012 Olympics.

No doubt he'll rue his bad luck. In December 2019 he won a thumping majority and three months later it all went to shit when the world got a hard on for locking up its citizens.

It's worth remembering that Johnsons first instincts were more akin to Sweden's approach, he was adamantly against curbing the liberties of the many for the possible benefit of the few.

But he was bullied into going along with the whole lockdown nonsense.

He's a flawed individual for sure, but I've some sympathy for the fact his demise was largely as a result of the fact that he didn't really believe in the draconian laws that public opinion forced him to enforce on others.

Amazingly for all his previous lies and errors of judgment, Boris Johnsons career ended because he lied about disobeying the rules that significantly curtailed peoples civil liberties.

Yet all the politicians who continue to lie about the value, wisdom and efficacy about curtailing those liberties remain lauded for their judgment.

Even if Covid was his only failing, which it wasn't, there was also the little matter of Brexit, he still deserves everything he got. The man is a compulsive liar and cheat I watched the the whole Partygate thing unfold, in what was serial fashion, on TV and he just told lies until evidence forced him to stop and then moved on to the next lie, and continued in that vein until he could go no further.
Even his resignation was dishonourable, he tried to put the blame on the Chair of the Committee which found against him, saying she conspired to force him out. This, even though the committee was majority Tory Mps, making a recommendation, not a direction, so a Commons vote would be required, to a House of Commons with a huge Tory majority, that he be suspended from a seat that has been a safe Tory seat since God was a lad. So in effect, the verdict of his peers on his conduct as PM was so bad that he saw no alternative but to run away and hide, and throw mud at anyone he could as he ran.

[DeletedUser]

I know it's the fashion and has been for too long but adding "-gate" to any perceived scandal gets on my fcking tits.

[marhay70]

I know it's the fashion and has been for too long but adding "-gate" to any perceived scandal gets on my fcking tits.

Let's hope there isn't a scandal in the Gate theatre then or you're really fcuked.

[DeletedUser]

Let's hope there isn't a scandal in the Gate theatre then or you're really fcuked.

Oh some dickhead in the Irish press would still go Gate-gate. They're morons.

[678904673]

I look forward to Bojo's attempted return. If nothing else it will be entertaining

[marhay70]

I look forward to Bojo's attempted return. If nothing else it will be entertaining

I'd be interested to see if he stood in one of the bye-elections and lost, who would he blame for that? Would he be willing to take the risk of losing?

[678904673]

I'd be interested to see if he stood in one of the bye-elections and lost, who would he blame for that? Would he be willing to take the risk of losing?

If he does stand it will be in a very safe Tory seat where he couldn't loose, He wouldn't risk a seat in any way marginal

[marhay70]

If he does stand it will be in a very safe Tory seat where he couldn't loose, He wouldn't risk a seat in any way marginal

He can't just pick and choose, it has to be available. I doubt he'll stand in the next GE as the Tories are likely to take a hiding in that and he'll want to be able to blame Sunak.