Israel and Palestine

[Setanta]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... d-hostages


The truth is leaking out.... nethanyu is fucked,people within his own government/army is leaking truth against him out

[Norman Breaks]

I have a few things to say about this 'news' reporting from The Guardian

1: Main headline says IDF carries out 'targeted strike'. This implies they had full knowledge of what they were firing at.
2: Hezbollah pounded northern Israel with rockets. This implies Hezbollah were firing rockets willy-nilly.

Then you look down and see that apparently Hezbollah fired over 100 rockets. No added report of targets hit or casualties. From everything I've read, Hezbollah rocket fire is targeted at military assets.
However there are reports of 5 children killed in the 'targeted strike' Israel.

So are they telling us Israel is deliberately targeting kids?

[PureIsle]

Israel does not, and never did, care about those innocents that get killed. All they care about is killing their 'target' regardless how many other get injured or killed as a result of their 'targeting'.

We have seen the same process in Gaza this past (close to a) year.

So we can hardly be surprised that Israel placed explosives in electronic equipment that was sold to Hezbollah and others, and then detonated those explosives regardless the loss of innocent lives as a result.

Today they topped even that and destroyed two civilian buildings because I read they believed their 'target' and others were in an underground tunnel there.

12 dead and about 70 injured according ro some reports from today's bombing in Beirut, in addition to the near 3,000 injured from those pagers and other electronic equipment they detonated regardless who was in the vicinity ......... or indeed maybe flying in an airplane!

Hezbollah responded by firing about 120 missiles at military targets.

[Setanta]

I have a few things to say about this 'news' reporting from The Guardian

1: Main headline says IDF carries out 'targeted strike'. This implies they had full knowledge of what they were firing at.
2: Hezbollah pounded northern Israel with rockets. This implies Hezbollah were firing rockets willy-nilly.

Then you look down and see that apparently Hezbollah fired over 100 rockets. No added report of targets hit or casualties. From everything I've read, Hezbollah rocket fire is targeted at military assets.
However there are reports of 5 children killed in the 'targeted strike' Israel.

So are they telling us Israel is deliberately targeting kids?

https://x.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/1837153405447327840


Propaganda would have you believe Hezbollah are the agressors here

[knownunknown]

Whatever about arguing that Palestinians have a ‘right to terrorism’ (because of what Israel allegedly does to them).
Arguing that hezbollah have this same right and are anything but blood thirsty terrorists is indicative of a warped brain overcome with propaganda.

In 2020 after the Beirut explosion Israel raised a flag in solidarity with them and provided aid through a third party.

No one can even argue about open air prisons, subjugation etc… yet the Hamas supporters in this thread see hizbbollah exactly the same… as freedom fighters.

All the reasons given for supporting Palestinian terrorism are absent from hizbollah terrorism yet they receive the same support from the Palestinian flags and our resident bleeding hearts. This is indicative of the real nature of the hatred for Israel, anti semitism.

[Setanta]

Whatever about arguing that Palestinians have a ‘right to terrorism’ (because of what Israel allegedly does to them).
Arguing that hezbollah have this same right and are anything but blood thirsty terrorists is indicative of a warped brain overcome with propaganda.

In 2020 after the Beirut explosion Israel raised a flag in solidarity with them and provided aid through a third party.

No one can even argue about open air prisons, subjugation etc… yet the Hamas supporters in this thread see hizbbollah exactly the same… as freedom fighters.

All the reasons given for supporting Palestinian terrorism are absent from hizbollah terrorism yet they receive the same support from the Palestinian flags and our resident bleeding hearts. This is indicative of the real nature of the hatred for Israel, anti semitism.

There is no agreed defined border between Israel and Lebanon, Israel being a perpetually expanding colony gives some reasonable position for Hezbollah to build on(check out west bank seizures this week)

...the hatred runs deep there after all the massacres Isreal done after palestinians surrendered and de-armed,and men were gone (sabra in particular,given Irish context,remain an unresolved war crime with noone given death penalty,or held accountable for them)


Those children who survived are coming into positions of power there now....that is a pure powderkeg,brought to the world by the left,who refuse to solve anything,only kick can down the road all the time

If the world won't defend them,or halt genocidal slaughter like in Gaza,never hold genocidists to account,how can anyone in good conscience critise Hezbollah??

[knownunknown]

If the world won't defend them,or halt genocidal slaughter like in Gaza,never hold genocidists to account,how can anyone in good conscience critise Hezbollah??

It has nothing to do with what you said and you need only read the various doctrines of hezbollah to understand their true motivations.

Hezbollah's 1985 Arabic-language manifesto state that "our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated"

They want to obliterate the only Jewish state in the world. That is what the people who coined the term “genocide” meant. Very nazi-ish altogether.

God, according to Hezbollah theology, cursed all Jews as blasphemers damned for all time and throughout history. Hezbollah, as well as the political/religious leaders of Iran, believe that the destruction of Israel will bring about the "reappearance of the Imam (the Shiite Islamic Messiah)".

[Setanta]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... ians-hamas


12 months into this onslaught and Isreal have been reduced to ideas like this.... militarily they are in no position to take on Hezbollah,having failed to defeat few hundred blokes in flip flops with mostly homemade weapons,

[Norman Breaks]

The murder regime continues:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c4g9dx20z21o

[Quato]

Congrats to the IDF for taking out the scumbag Nasrallah. Another well done job!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -wider-war

[kadman]

Israel has been given the green light to murder thousands of women and children in their pursuit of legitimate targets. Collateral damage is a meaningless term in this context. War crimes is a better description.The entire western world does not give a feck how many innocent people are murdered daily.

[Setanta]

Iran is pounding Israeli targets tonight..... hopefully noone innocent gets hurt,

But I dispise the main stream media,for labeling this as Iran escalating this conflict after all the attacks Israel has done against everyone this past months....how many Iranian military personnel have been lost in not-so-mysterious helicopter crashes

[knownunknown]

73 hostages remain presumed alive in captivity by Hamas since October 7th of last year, Hamas need only return these people to de escalate the conflict.

If you were one of these hostages you would want the world turned upside down until you were freed too, we all would.

Israel is fighting a war for the west right now, a war of tactics. Israel cannot allow these barbaric tactics of using human shields to win, or else every conflict in the future will use them. These tactics cannot be allowed to win, for the sake of humanity.

If my child was kidnapped I’d have no problem killing dozens of even hundreds of people complicit in their kidnapping. We all would, admit it.

What is disgusting is that Israel either has to give up hope of rescuing these hostages or it has to accept collateral damage of civilian deaths because Hamas keep firing rockets from schools, hospitals and places full of civilians, which is a war crime under UN conventions.

The weapons being supplied by eu and America to Israel are mostly precision weapons that limit the collateral damage, unlike let’s say mortars which are far, far, cheaper and are indiscriminate in their attacks.

If they wanted to commit genocide they would be using the bigger, cheaper, indiscriminate weapons.

[Setanta]

73 hostages remain presumed alive in captivity by Hamas since October 7th of last year, Hamas need only return these people to de escalate the conflict.

If you were one of these hostages you would want the world turned upside down until you were freed too, we all would.

Israel is fighting a war for the west right now, a war of tactics. Israel cannot allow these barbaric tactics of using human shields to win, or else every conflict in the future will use them. These tactics cannot be allowed to win, for the sake of humanity.

If my child was kidnapped I’d have no problem killing dozens of even hundreds of people complicit in their kidnapping. We all would, admit it.

What is disgusting is that Israel either has to give up hope of rescuing these hostages or it has to accept collateral damage of civilian deaths because Hamas keep firing rockets from schools, hospitals and places full of civilians, which is a war crime under UN conventions.

The weapons being supplied by eu and America to Israel are mostly precision weapons that limit the collateral damage, unlike let’s say mortars which are far, far, cheaper and are indiscriminate in their attacks.

If they wanted to commit genocide they would be using the bigger, cheaper, indiscriminate weapons.

Il let you into a secret,it was never about the hostages,there's none of em in Beirut

[knownunknown]

Of course it’s about the hostages, and the potential for taking more hostages in the future. If you were a hostage would you want the world to forget about you one year later; yes or no? Is hostage taking a war crime, yes or no? If you are complicit in hostage taking you are just as bad as the abductor in all western countries; yes or no?

They are not being treated any differently to how hostage takers would be treated in any western society, they would be hunted down and destroyed.

[Setanta]

Of course it’s about the hostages, and the potential for taking more hostages in the future. If you were a hostage would you want the world to forget about you one year later; yes or no? Is hostage taking a war crime, yes or no? If you are complicit in hostage taking you are just as bad as the abductor in all western countries; yes or no?

They are not being treated any differently to how hostage takers would be treated in any western society, they would be hunted down and destroyed.

course it’s about the hostages,

It's not,why are they bombing Beirut??,they turned down full return of hostages on Oct 8th 2023....you have to stop believing the tame stream media narrative,it deosnt stand upto scrutiny

Is hostage taking a war crime, yes or no? If you are complicit in hostage taking you are just as bad as the abductor in all western countries; yes or no?

Whats the story with the 11,000 or so palestinians Israel has taken hostage,this past 12 months?

They are not being treated any differently to how hostage takers would be treated in any western society, they would be hunted down and destroyed.

Presumably you would be ok,with destruction of those who take palestinians hostages,or do you go with the tame stream media view,this is somehow ok,or just ignore reality?

[PureIsle]

I read a lot about how there are people who want to wipe Israel off the map, and honestly, after watching this, I am tending to agree with them.
This is the Zionist teachings and is accepted by the majority in Israel, according to their own polls, and as we have observed over the past year in particular, is carried out with great joy by the Israeli military.



and more should anyone suggest it was a 'one off' ...

[Norman Breaks]

Can't view it as not on Telegram but the sad part is, the HAVE to believe it. The minute they stop believing it, the whole Zionist bubble bursts. Hence why they are brain fed this BS from infancy. Hence why the Zionist propaganda machine is a multi billion dollar beast, to keep the illusion going, to get the brains rotted. It's a house of cards. A very well funded house of cards, but a HOC none the less.

[Setanta]

Can't view it as not on Telegram but the sad part is, the HAVE to believe it. The minute they stop believing it, the whole Zionist bubble bursts. Hence why they are brain fed this BS from infancy. Hence why the Zionist propaganda machine is a multi billion dollar beast, to keep the illusion going, to get the brains rotted. It's a house of cards. A very well funded house of cards, but a HOC none the less.

https://ibb.co/0KtFpXp


That is general run of it



Zionism falls apart,when you realise,the bible,or religious texts in general arent reliable primary sources

[PureIsle]

Lets see if this will stay up for 6 days - 3 files

https://filebin.net/tvk9nw5utw1pzfhw

[PureIsle]

I watched this documentary today.
It showed to me that the teachings/preachings shown in the videos of my previous post have taken a strong hold on those with power/guns in Israel, and the intent is very clear.

A few years ago this would have shocked me. All I felt today was more anger.
Anger not only at those Zionist thugs but also at all the countries whose governments support them in their horrific actions.
Genocidal scum is way too polite to describe these "people" .... how they can imagine they are human is beyond comprehension!

Anyway here is the link