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Israel and Palestine
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knownunknown
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Re: Israel and Palestine
Meanwhile back in reality we have had all the Hamas supporters out on the streets since Oct. 8th condemning the actions of Israel.
All these lowlifes crying wolf not only undermine truth and reason but their actions have undermined human rights organizations and the UN.
How do we know? Well when an actual genocide happens like we’re seeing now in Sudan, now one is paying attention and nothing is being done to help them.
You lying, manipulative, propagandists have enabled a real genocide with your exaggerated rhetoric designed to undermine Israel. All eyes should have been on Sudan, Nigeria etc.. but no, the left and their bloodlust for Jews has been crying foul of a genocide and a famine for two years, while fighting a war with only 70k deaths. Think about that. Your cries of wolf have allowed others to go unprotected, you evil bastards. None of you have a clue what a genocide or ethnic cleansing is. You don’t have a fecking clue.
When an actual genocide happens this is what it looks like, pools of blood were visible in satellite images.
“more people could have died [in 10 days]… than have died in the past two years of the war in Gaza, That’s what we’re talking about. That’s not hyperbole.
No aid was allowed to access the city, and no healthcare facilities [were] operating
Nathaniel Raymond, executive director of the Humanitarian Research Lab at Yale’s School of Public Health
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/ ... cre-expert
All these lowlifes crying wolf not only undermine truth and reason but their actions have undermined human rights organizations and the UN.
How do we know? Well when an actual genocide happens like we’re seeing now in Sudan, now one is paying attention and nothing is being done to help them.
You lying, manipulative, propagandists have enabled a real genocide with your exaggerated rhetoric designed to undermine Israel. All eyes should have been on Sudan, Nigeria etc.. but no, the left and their bloodlust for Jews has been crying foul of a genocide and a famine for two years, while fighting a war with only 70k deaths. Think about that. Your cries of wolf have allowed others to go unprotected, you evil bastards. None of you have a clue what a genocide or ethnic cleansing is. You don’t have a fecking clue.
When an actual genocide happens this is what it looks like, pools of blood were visible in satellite images.
“more people could have died [in 10 days]… than have died in the past two years of the war in Gaza, That’s what we’re talking about. That’s not hyperbole.
No aid was allowed to access the city, and no healthcare facilities [were] operating
Nathaniel Raymond, executive director of the Humanitarian Research Lab at Yale’s School of Public Health
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/ ... cre-expert
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knownunknown
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Re: Israel and Palestine
The atrocities unleashed on the population[in Sudan] have been truly shocking, at a time when many of us are already numb after hearing so many stories of human suffering from other conflicts.
You “river to the sea” guys don’t realize the evil you’ve done.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2025/1112 ... ed-forces/
You “river to the sea” guys don’t realize the evil you’ve done.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2025/1112 ... ed-forces/
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StarryPlough01
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Re: Israel and Palestine
Roman Emperor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:06 am Instead of gloating about the BBC being forced to "correct" it's content, Israel's apologists should hang their heads in abject shame.
Media outlets around the world are fighting an uphill battle against the hasbara and the Zionists are openly brazen and up-front about the strategy.
Early on in the genocide Sky was forced to sack Belle Donati at the behest of Danny Danon for daring to compare Israeli tactics to those of the Nazis.
Sangita Myska was sacked by LBC for asking Israeli mouthpiece Avi Hyman a few questions that cut a bit too close to the bone.
The Zionist tactic of smearing and discrediting organisations or individuals who voice even the mildest criticism of Israel is blatantly obvious.
Make no mistake, the Israeli regime has the power and the capacity to destroy any group or individual who dares to speak the truth.
Roman Emperor,
IF ONE AGREES WITH DES FREEDMAN, BELOW MIGHT BE A CASE OF NEEDING TO WATCH THEIR OWN ZIONIST BIAS WHEN ASSERTING AUNTIE BBC “BIAS” AGAINST ISRAEL
DES FREEDMAN, CO-FOUNDER OF UK’S MEDIA REFORM COALITION (MRC), HAS WRITTEN A LENGTHY DETAILED CRITIQUE OF THE 199-PAGE ASSERSON REPORT’S “FLAWED METHODOLOGY”, WHICH USED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE...
FREEDMAN STATES THE ASSERSON REPORT (SEPTEMBER 2024) CONCLUSION “FLIES IN THE FACE OF OTHER SPECIALIST AND ACADEMIC STUDIES AND STUDIES, BUT REFLECTS THE AUTHORS’ FRUSTRATION THAT THERE WAS ‘SYMPATHY’ FOR A CIVILIAN POPULATION UNDER ATTACK”
“The Report’s conclusion that the BBC was overwhelmingly biased in its coverage of Gaza flies not only in the face of other specialist and academic reports and studies but reflects the authors’ frustration that there was ‘sympathy’ for a civilian population under attack. The authors appear to think that the BBC’s acknowledgement – however constrained and intermittent – that a deadly assault on Gaza was taking place was in itself a breach of impartiality regulations. In reality, and despite the Israeli government’s best effort to suppress this coverage by preventing foreign journalists from entering Gaza, the fact that these awful scenes have made their way into public consciousness, is actually thanks more to brave reporting from Palestinian journalists inside Gaza than it is to a BBC that is often reluctant to criticise Israel for its actions, let alone to describe them as genocidal.”
https://www.mediareform.org.uk/blog/bbc ... son-report
Roman Emperor, my advice is to take artificial intelligence (AI) with a grain of salt. And to triple-check facts with reliable sources.
The Asserson Report (September 2024 ) by Jewish lawyer Trevor Asserson (Founder and Senior Partner at Asserson Law Offices) that UK’s Telegraph made front page news, used ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE to claim BBC 'bias' against Israel... ...
Wikipedia: “A member of the Law Society, Asserson is active as a lawyer within the Jewish Community in the UK and Israel. He is based in Jerusalem, Israel.[8][9][4]
“Trevor Asserson was born in London to a Jewish family. His father was a businessman, and his mother was a writer and a broadcaster.[10]
Zionist contributor, who led the team in the Asserson Report, Dr Haran Shari-Narkiss has an AI- BASED START UP BUSINESS (RIMe):
Dr Haran Shari-Narkiss was asked by Jerusalem Post what was his motivation. He replied:
“ZIONISM. Justice. The desire to be able to sleep well at night, knowing that you gave your skills for what is currently happening in your country.”
By LILAC SIGAN, APRIL 17, 2025 / Jerusalem Post
https://www.jpost.com/business-and-inno ... cle-850455
The Asserson Report
‘The Israel-Hamas war and the BBC’
by Trevor Asserson
with RIMe data science [DR HARAN SHARI-NARKISS’ AI-BASED START UP BUSINESS: RIMe]
https://campaignformediastandards.org.u ... report.pdf
HERE’S THE LENGTHY BRUTAL ANALYSIS BY DES FREEDMAN, CO-FOUNDER OF UK’S MEDIA REFORM COALITION (MRC) :
“Des Freedman is a Professor of Media and Communications at Goldsmiths, author of The Contradictions of Media Power and editor of Capitalism’s Conscience: 200 years of the Guardian”
‘BBC, bias and Gaza: A partial study of impartiality’
‘From flimsy AI analysis to basic errors, the Asserson Report on BBC 'anti-Israel bias' is both flawed and completely at odds with the realities of the war in Gaza.
By Des Freedman / Friday September 13, 2024
'This piece originally published by Byline Times and republished here with kind permission.'
UK Media Reform Coalition (MRC)
https://www.mediareform.org.uk/blog/bbc ... son-report
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“The story was extensively covered in right-wing news outlets including the Express, Mail, Sun, Jewish Chronicle and Spiked as well as on GB News and Talk TV. It played out internationally with coverage in the Jerusalem Post, New York Post and Variety.
“Yet a comprehensive analysis of UK news reporting of Gaza published by the Centre for Media Monitoring in March 2024 that came to quite different conclusions – that there have been repeated misrepresentation of Palestinian perspectives – received no attention at all in mainstream media at the time.
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"The Asserson Report is no lightweight document. It runs to 199 pages with a separate 188-page supporting document and claims to have used both human and artificial intelligence to assess some nine million words of BBC output from 7 October 2023 to 7 February 2024.
“But there is little intelligence in the analysis itself and instead pages and pages of charts that attempt to prove just how badly the BBC has treated Israel and its supporters. <---<---
FLAWED METHODOLOGY RELYING ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND FLAWED RELIANCE ON “HUMAN SYMPATHY ANALYSIS” CARRIED OUT BY HUMANS AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE:
“This is partly a result of a flawed methodology which relies on a very naïve conception of AI, not least its claim that ChatGPT is ‘not subject to inherent human subjective judgement’ (p. 23) and is instead an ‘unbiased proxy for the “casual everyday audience for news” that does not have an opinion on the conflict’ (p. 123). AI may not have an opinion on the conflict but those asking the questions do and, in any case, its language models are only as good as the content they depend on, a significant proportion of which is generated by major news organisations such as the New York Times who certainly do have skin in the game.
The Report’s reliance on ‘human sympathy analysis’ (carried out here by both humans and AI) is also flawed.
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"The Report then condemns the BBC for not giving equal treatment to ‘war crimes’ perpetrated by both Israel and Hamas (p. 87). This shows not just its pro-Israel sympathy – for example the Report acknowledges ‘that there are more Palestinian deaths than Israeli deaths, but those deaths are not obviously evidence of War Crimes’ Really? It also reveals an extraordinary lack of understanding of journalism given that the ongoing (though of course not the only) story for effectively 123 of the 124 days of the sample was about Israeli attacks on Gaza as opposed to Hamas’ attack on Israel on 7 October. Not surprisingly, there were more stories linking Israel to war crimes, genocide and breaches of international law because this what was taking place each day after 7 October.
“The Report also states that the BBC’s reporting neglects to acknowledge the ‘existential threat to Israel’ and fails ‘to explain the military threats to Israel’ (p. 91). This is a PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM given the amount of airtime provided to IDF spokespeople and government ministers (a fact acknowledged in the Report) and the reluctance of the BBC and other news organisations consistently to recognise the context of occupation.
“This failing was clearly set out in the BBC’s own 2006 Thomas Report – ironically name checked by Asserson (p. 192) in his own Report despite coming to very different conclusions – when it spoke of the ‘asymmetry’ between the situation faced by Israel and that of the Palestinians. Thomas noted the BBC’s
...“Failure to convey adequately the disparity in the Israeli and Palestinian experience, reflecting the fact that one side is in control and the other lives under occupation. Although this asymmetry does not necessarily bear on the relative merits of the two sides, it is so marked and important that coverage should succeed in this if in nothing else.”
(Asserson Report, p. 31)
STARRY: My take on MRC co-founder Des Freedman’s devastatingly brutal examination of KEY weaknesses can be summarised, perhaps, here :
The Asserson Report suffers from a flawed methodology, characterised by its over-reliance on subjective input. The Report, perhaps, lacks objective verification. Such a report needs credible independent oversight. I recommend independent scrutiny, prior to publication, as it will strip any Report of unreliable and unsubstantiated findings.
External scrutiny is always legal advice by law firms. What happened here?
“The background of the Report’s authors is revealing. Asserson himself is a long-time critic of the BBC’s coverage of Israel and has partnered with a series of Israeli lawyers and data scientists organised via a group called Research for Impartial Media (RIMe). There is no information about this group other than that its convenor, Dr Haran Shari-Narkiss is a neuroscientist whose most recent paper is on the ‘Stability and Flexibility of Odor Representations in the Mouse Olfactory.”
And, CRUCIALLY, Des Freedman might be asserting that the Report has absence of diverse, credible contributors (?): “no media researchers or indeed journalists were part of the research team and there is no reference at all in the nearly 400 pages of documents to studies, such as the CMM one, that have found systematic bias against Palestinians in mainstream media coverage of Israel and Palestine.” This critique appears to render the Report’s findings unreliable and unsubstantiated."
I would like hear from the Telegraph, the Express, GB News, Talk TV, New York Post, Jerusalem Post etc., who covered the Asserson Report, with hindsight, their views now.
I do think the author's conditioning has influenced the report, as evidenced by their blinkered FAILURE to mention ISRAEL'S OCCUPATION OF PALESTINE...
PLEASE READ DES FREEDMAN’S ANALYSIS IN FULL. IT GIVES YOU LINKS WITHIN THE TEXT THAT OPEN TO ARTICLES. FOR EXAMPLE:
MEDIA BIAS GAZA 2023-24
AUTHORED BY FAISAL HANIF MARCH 2024
150pp
fmm.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/CfMM-Report-Final-MEDIA-BIAS-GAZA-2023-24-ePDF.pdf
Finally, I really appreciate the Media Reform Coalition's dissection of the Asserson Report. I believe it will assist people reading any future reports, authored by Zionists, on alleged bias against Israel...
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AnFearRéabhlóideach
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Re: Israel and Palestine
One gangster recognising another. Trumpler asks the Israeli President Herzog to preemptively pardon the war criminal Netyenyahoo before he has even been found guilty of corruption and other upcoming charges of media interference that are being brought against him by the Israeli courts. Netyenyahoo was already found guilty of accepting bribes and corruption back in 2019, so it's old hat for the genocidal war lord.
Trumpler puts it that Bibi deserves such preferential treatment because he helped bring around such a historic 'ceasefire' after 3,000 years of conflict, whatever that means, seeing as this current conflict in Palestine only goes back to the early 1900s at best. The orange turnip's ears must be burning a little now those emails from dear Ghislaine and his old pal Epstein are emerging and show that he probably went for several jaunts to the island. Mossad could be calling in their last few favours with the orange turnip trying to squeeze a few last drops from 'Donny the dirty dog', as Epstein called him, before he gets outed as a nonce.
https://www.trtworld.com/article/d8df09936610
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump- ... ion-cases/
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/11/12/tru ... crats.html
Trumpler puts it that Bibi deserves such preferential treatment because he helped bring around such a historic 'ceasefire' after 3,000 years of conflict, whatever that means, seeing as this current conflict in Palestine only goes back to the early 1900s at best. The orange turnip's ears must be burning a little now those emails from dear Ghislaine and his old pal Epstein are emerging and show that he probably went for several jaunts to the island. Mossad could be calling in their last few favours with the orange turnip trying to squeeze a few last drops from 'Donny the dirty dog', as Epstein called him, before he gets outed as a nonce.
https://www.trtworld.com/article/d8df09936610
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump- ... ion-cases/
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/11/12/tru ... crats.html
Senator Donie Cassidy, Seanad Debate, 10th April 2008
"[House] prices are now nearing the bottom end......Now is the right time to buy."
"[House] prices are now nearing the bottom end......Now is the right time to buy."
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AnFearRéabhlóideach
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Re: Israel and Palestine
Good man there knownunknown. The RSF genocide backed by the UAE that's happening Sudan should be highlighted more and the 150,000 that have been killed in Sudan since 2023 should be getting much more attention. However, you're been facetious and using the suffering of the Sudanese civilians in Darfur as a deflection tool to try and take away from the genocide in Gaza. One genocide does not rule out the other.knownunknown wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:23 am Meanwhile back in reality we have had all the Hamas supporters out on the streets since Oct. 8th condemning the actions of Israel.
All these lowlifes crying wolf not only undermine truth and reason but their actions have undermined human rights organizations and the UN.
How do we know? Well when an actual genocide happens like we’re seeing now in Sudan, now one is paying attention and nothing is being done to help them.
You lying, manipulative, propagandists have enabled a real genocide with your exaggerated rhetoric designed to undermine Israel. All eyes should have been on Sudan, Nigeria etc.. but no, the left and their bloodlust for Jews has been crying foul of a genocide and a famine for two years, while fighting a war with only 70k deaths. Think about that. Your cries of wolf have allowed others to go unprotected, you evil bastards. None of you have a clue what a genocide or ethnic cleansing is. You don’t have a fecking clue.
When an actual genocide happens this is what it looks like, pools of blood were visible in satellite images.
“more people could have died [in 10 days]… than have died in the past two years of the war in Gaza, That’s what we’re talking about. That’s not hyperbole.
No aid was allowed to access the city, and no healthcare facilities [were] operating
Nathaniel Raymond, executive director of the Humanitarian Research Lab at Yale’s School of Public Health
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/ ... cre-expert
Also the UN is yet to declare what's happening in Sudan officially as a genocide, rather they have issued warning of possible intent to commit genocide. It took two years for the UN to call what was happening in Gaza a genocide so don't go putting the cart before the horse dear knownunknown. Personally, I would agree that it is extreme persecution and that it probably is a genocidal action by the largely ethnically Arab RSF vs the non-Arabs populations of Sudan, but just let the UN do it's job and find out. Nobody undermined the legitimacy of UN and international humanitarian aid organisations more than the Zionist war criminals and their American puppets blatantly did for 2 years now. In fact, the ease with which Israel was allowed to commit genocide and the wholesale persecution of the Palestinians only probably drove on the likes of the headers in the RSF in Sudan, and elsewhere around the world. They now realise that international law is worthless and nobody is going to step in and stop us committing such brazen war crimes because nobody stepped up and stopped the Zionist regime from doing likewise.
In any event, bad and all as things are in Sudan, at least nobody is purposefully starving the displaced population of Sudan and trapping them inside a massive concentration camp and the humanitarian aid is being allowed in and not being used as a tool of ethnic cleansing like is was used in Gaza by Israel. Sudan is also a much bigger country with a much larger population than Gaza. Perhaps 150,000 of 50 million in Sudan are estimated to have died in 2 years of conflict there that's about 0.3 percent of the total population. In Gaza it could easily be over 100,000 dead Palestinians of a population of 2.1 million or around 5% of Gaza's pre war population.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/11/1166300
What's really interesting though is how easily the Yanks and Western countries would label what's happening in Sudan and Darfur as a genocide long before the UN and other international bodies have done the research and given it the label of genocide. You had that Yankee clown Blinken declaring the Sudan crisis as a genocide months ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... y-genocide
Meanwhile, when it comes to the Gazan genocide which got the official seal of approval from the UN, a 100% guaranteed case of genocide, you still have the Western media having to be dragged kicking and screaming to accept that this was genocide. You have Netyenyahoo and the lads still claiming they're actions were purely military ones, and denying they tried to make life deliberately impossible for the Palestinians who had to cling on desperately in Gaza against the IDF murder machine for over 2 years now.
Gaza was genocide in the modern social media, live streamed to the world and yet the media still thinks the narrative can be controlled with lies and fabrications. It's a sick world dear knownunknown. All the Hasbara from Haifa can't change the reality of what went on and really still continues to this day in Gaza.
Senator Donie Cassidy, Seanad Debate, 10th April 2008
"[House] prices are now nearing the bottom end......Now is the right time to buy."
"[House] prices are now nearing the bottom end......Now is the right time to buy."
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StarryPlough01
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Re: Israel and Palestine
knownunknown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:34 pm Admin? I’m not sure what you mean. It’s a threat of being sued if they don’t remove the doctored panorama documentary and admit their bias. It’s a simple request to have the edited, intentionally doctored, misleading information removed from the zeitgeist and surely that can only be a good thing unless you are ideologically driven, don’t care about truth and the misleading information helps your side to achieve its aims.
2 corrections per day, do you not think the truth is important?
A month ago you were telling us that there were 680,000 dead in Gaza,do you care to revise that figure yet? Does it not matter whether there were 68,000 dead or 680,000 dead- does that make a difference?
Albanese:
At a press conference at the U.N. in Geneva, Albanese claimed that people “should start the thinking of 680,000” as the “real death toll in Gaza.” She then added that of these 680,000 killed, 380,000 of those are infants under the age of five.
Despite the glaring inaccuracy of these figures, Albanese then states that it will “be hard to be able to prove or disprove this number.” However, in reality, census data from the Palestinian Authority refutes these impossible figures. For instance, according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, only 341,790 children under five live in the Gaza Strip, nearly 40 thousand less than the figure Albanese claims were dead. In other words, Albanese alleges more children under the five were killed than those that lived in the Gaza Strip, a claim that is not only false but mathematically impossible.
In an interview the following week, Albanese admitted she used these numbers for the shock factor, saying, “in that interview, the largest figure I deliberately mentioned in a provocative way had the effect I wanted — it made people nod their heads and say, ‘What’s going on?’ These numbers are highly disputed.”
KUK,
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. PERHAPS, IT’S AN EXCUSE BY YOURSELF FOR SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
As I explained to you, the only BBC bias I've heard recently, was about 2 BBC executives who resigned after the BBC was accused of editing a speech by Trump before the 6 January 2021 Capital insurrection, in Washington DC, where several people died and hundreds were injured (police officers).
I’m hesitant to discuss ^ this ^, should there still be an ongoing investigation / case to answer, e.g., Trump and others. (With respect to Guru.ie website's rules).
KuK, Regarding your sole link on BBC “bias”, I did briefly look up Baroness Ruth Dench, who is mentioned in your link, and here it is:
Jewish Telegraph
PROFILE
‘Daughter of a refugee rose to be head of an Oxford college’
BY SIMON YAFFE
https://www.jewishtelegraph.com/prof_383.html
“ Her writer father, Josef Fraenkel, was born in Poland and fled, first to Vienna and then Prague, from the Nazis. He arrived in Britain on September 3, 1939, the day the Allies declared war on Germany.
“Her mother, Dora (nee Rosenfield) was from Glasgow, of Polish parentage. Members of her family died in the Holocaust.
....
"I come from a very Zionist family," she explained. "My father spent time working for the World Jewish Congress and wrote books about Theodor Herzl (the founder of political Zionism). "We were not a religious family, but we were very culturally Jewish." ....
Restitutions has become an important part of her life.
“Poland still has no law covering the restitution of private property seized by the Nazis or nationalised by the communists.
“Baroness Deech continued: "It is as if all the achievements of Jewish life there had never happened."
STARRY: I’m hoping Baroness Ruth Deech will talk about the destruction of Gaza , and I don’t mean material objects like her family’s silverware (as per your sole. YAHOO link). I mean, of course, IDF targeting and destruction of heritage sites... cultural and religious sites in Gaza...
https://docs.un.org/en/A/HRC/59/26
KuK, Here’s your unedited post with YAHOO link (possibly directed at user PureIsle ??)
THE SOLE YAHOO LINK YOU GAVE IS VERY LIGHT IN CONTENT
viewtopic.php?p=67837#p67837
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bbc ... 00422.html
knownunknown wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:42 pm They get debunked a week later and you never hear the corrections, or you just ignore them.
knownunknown wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:25 am The same pattern repeats time and time again, bullshit unverified stories published and then shared by the likes of yourself, then when the truth comes out you completely ignore it and move onto the next sensationalist bullshit story.
HERE’S MY ORIGINAL ONE AND ONLY REPLY TO KUK’S ABOVE POST
#2779 Post by StarryPlough01 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:35 am
viewtopic.php?p=67847#p67847
KuK, is there a Trump admin thread here at Gubu.ie? I only know a little about Trump threatening to sue public broadcaster BBC - 1 Billion bucks - for editing his speech comments on 6th January (before his triumphant re-election).
I don't like anyone editing comments.
There has been an attempt to discredit the BBC by the Israel lobby. Auntie BBC does make brilliant documentaries.
Have a nice day KuK.
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knownunknown
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Re: Israel and Palestine
StarryPlough01 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:40 am KUK,
As I explained to you, the only BBC bias I've heard recently, was about 2 BBC executives who resigned after the BBC was accused of editing a speech by Trump before the 6 January 2021 Capital insurrection, in Washington DC, where several people died and hundreds were injured (police officers).
I’m hesitant to discuss ^ this ^, should there still be an ongoing investigation / case to answer, e.g., Trump and others. (With respect to Guru.ie website's rules).
KuK, Regarding your sole link on BBC “bias”, I did briefly look up Baroness Ruth Dench, who is mentioned in your link, and here it is:
Have a nice day KuK.
Starry, the bias was about much more than just Trump. They were pushing out propaganda on the BBC with regards to what was happening in Gaza. I posted about it several times in this thread already. Have a great day.
knownunknown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:29 pm A member of the editorial standards commission in the UK this summer stepped down and revealed this damning critique of the BBC and their coverage of Israel.
knownunknown wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:00 pm BBC Arabic were pumping out propaganda, according to the regulator. Many documented examples of bias, which were clearly incorrect and unsubstantiated were printed as fact.
RTE were just regurgitating this type of reporting. I can’t wait until accountability comes for the propagandists. They have caused as much suffering through their actions as the IDF soldiers dropping bombs on Gaza. They give Islamists’ argument weight and merit, that they are being oppressed. All lies of course but this gives them a free pass to commit Jihad, under promise of going to Jannah with all the virgins. Without the persecution the ability to commit jihad is not sanctioned by the Quran.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/1 ... amas-lies/
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knownunknown
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Re: Israel and Palestine
Here again is the link to where the BBC were forced to correct two stories per week, with regards to coverage in Gaza, on average because of misinformation. The person who worked as an impartial regulator for the BBC resigned because they weren’t being listened to, that’s where these revelations come from.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bbc ... 00422.html
BBC Arabic has had to make 215 corrections and clarifications over the past two years on stories that were found to be biased, inaccurate or misleading.
The figures follow a week of revelations by The Telegraph of one-sided reporting at the BBC, disclosed in an 8,000-word dossier compiled by a whistleblower, which also accused BBC Arabic of choosing to “minimise Israeli suffering” in the war in Gaza to “paint Israel as the aggressor”.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bbc ... 00422.html
BBC Arabic has had to make 215 corrections and clarifications over the past two years on stories that were found to be biased, inaccurate or misleading.
The figures follow a week of revelations by The Telegraph of one-sided reporting at the BBC, disclosed in an 8,000-word dossier compiled by a whistleblower, which also accused BBC Arabic of choosing to “minimise Israeli suffering” in the war in Gaza to “paint Israel as the aggressor”.
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knownunknown
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Re: Israel and Palestine
A leaked BBC dossier acknowledges serious editorial failures in BBC Arabic coverage, confirming and overlapping with years of research by the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting & Analysis (CAMERA).
The 19-page internal memo by Michael Prescott, a former adviser to the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee, accuses BBC Arabic of systemic anti-Israel bias, platforming extremist voices, and amplifying Hamas propaganda. The memo was reported by The Telegraph yesterday.
Prescott’s findings mirror and expand upon documentation first publicly exposed by CAMERA UK and CAMERA Arabic researchers throughout the two years that followed October 7, 2023.
Today’s leaked memo corroborates this research, showing how BBC Arabic minimized anti-Israel attacks, including by ignoring 12 child fatalities when reporting on Hezbollah’s rocket attack on Majdal Shams and by portraying a terror attack at Jaffa train station, which killed nine Israeli civilians, as a “military operation.”
The dossier finds BBC Arabic gave “unjustifiable weight” to Hamas casualty figures, uncritically reported fabricated “mass graves” claims from Hamas-run agencies, and published a 582-word Hamas statement disputing the testimony of a rescued Yazidi woman held captive in Gaza.
https://www.camera.org/article/press-re ... l-dossier/
Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America
The 19-page internal memo by Michael Prescott, a former adviser to the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee, accuses BBC Arabic of systemic anti-Israel bias, platforming extremist voices, and amplifying Hamas propaganda. The memo was reported by The Telegraph yesterday.
Prescott’s findings mirror and expand upon documentation first publicly exposed by CAMERA UK and CAMERA Arabic researchers throughout the two years that followed October 7, 2023.
Today’s leaked memo corroborates this research, showing how BBC Arabic minimized anti-Israel attacks, including by ignoring 12 child fatalities when reporting on Hezbollah’s rocket attack on Majdal Shams and by portraying a terror attack at Jaffa train station, which killed nine Israeli civilians, as a “military operation.”
The dossier finds BBC Arabic gave “unjustifiable weight” to Hamas casualty figures, uncritically reported fabricated “mass graves” claims from Hamas-run agencies, and published a 582-word Hamas statement disputing the testimony of a rescued Yazidi woman held captive in Gaza.
https://www.camera.org/article/press-re ... l-dossier/
Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America
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knownunknown
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Re: Israel and Palestine
BBC ignored growing concerns about inaccuracy of Gazan death toll reporting
BBC Arabic’s sharply divergent reporting of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, compared to the BBC’s English language website
The BBC’s Executive’s response to the evidence against BBC Arabic
BBC Arabic’s use of deeply compromised ‘journalists’ in Gaza was far worse than previously realised
The BBC misreported on mass graves in Gaza, implying Israeli war crimes
The BBC knew a devastating claim about Gaza starvation was incorrect. They asked an Israeli representative on Newsnight about it anyway.
The ICJ did not rule that there was a “plausible case of genocide” in Gaza. The BBC suggested that it had – too many times to count
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/the-10-wor ... g-dossier/
Here is a thread about it here:
https://www.gubu.ie/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2585&p=67785
BBC Arabic’s sharply divergent reporting of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, compared to the BBC’s English language website
The BBC’s Executive’s response to the evidence against BBC Arabic
BBC Arabic’s use of deeply compromised ‘journalists’ in Gaza was far worse than previously realised
The BBC misreported on mass graves in Gaza, implying Israeli war crimes
The BBC knew a devastating claim about Gaza starvation was incorrect. They asked an Israeli representative on Newsnight about it anyway.
The ICJ did not rule that there was a “plausible case of genocide” in Gaza. The BBC suggested that it had – too many times to count
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/the-10-wor ... g-dossier/
Here is a thread about it here:
https://www.gubu.ie/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2585&p=67785
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Re: Israel and Palestine
The definition of what constitutes a genocide doesn't depend exclusively on mortality figures - not a lot of people know that.knownunknown wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:23 am
...You lying, manipulative, propagandists have enabled a real genocide with your exaggerated rhetoric designed to undermine Israel. All eyes should have been on Sudan, Nigeria etc.. but no, the left and their bloodlust for Jews has been crying foul of a genocide and a famine for two years, while fighting a war with only 70k deaths. Think about that. Your cries of wolf have allowed others to go unprotected, you evil bastards. None of you have a clue what a genocide or ethnic cleansing is. You don’t have a fecking clue. ...
And a lot of Zionist cheerleaders do know it but choose to deliberately ignore it.
Just because greater numbers might have perished elsewhere doesn't absolve Israel of responsibility for the Gaza genocide.
I won't go into the details of the Genocide Convention here - anyone who cares to look it up will see that Israel's actions in Gaza easily meets four of the five criteria that defines genocide.
But Article 2(d) of the Genocide Convention is a very interesting one from an Israeli perspective,
Article 2(d)- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
I wonder how many cheerleaders of the Zionist regime are aware, or will admit, that female Ethiopian Jews were injected with a contraceptive drug without their knowledge or consent.
If the Zionist state is willing to breach the Convention and commit an act of genocide against a section of it's own people it doesn't take a great leap of imagination to visualise what it's capable of doing to the "human animal" element within it's society.
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Re: Israel and Palestine
This is what happened the last time an international force, the quartet and the UN tried to set up an international security force in Gaza to mediate hostilities between Hamas and the Israelis.
