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knownunknown wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:05 pm
Needed an interpreter too, this is the guy who is supposed to be a member of the Irish defence army or whatever standing up for the proud tricolour. Anyone who buys this is needs to give their head a wobble.
Pantaloon Jeopardy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:12 pm
You presume I am suggesting anyone ever argued against far right terrorists being gotten out? You might re-read my post, you won't see that anywhere.
I believe I might legitimately suspect you of attempting to bait me into defending a statement I never made in the first place.
You mean using your tactic when in “goading mode” as you so blithely stated you were doing ??
Pantaloon Jeopardy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:12 pm
You presume I am suggesting anyone ever argued against far right terrorists being gotten out? You might re-read my post, you won't see that anywhere.
I believe I might legitimately suspect you of attempting to bait me into defending a statement I never made in the first place.
I am many things but not the goading type.
That’s genuinely how I read your message and why I responded to it with a question.
Not quite sure why this overly confrontational tone needed to be thrown into the conversation.
Guburnor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:05 am
If you're curious about a particular posters preferences, please just ask them directly.
Believe me, there's little curiosity involved, and even littler need to ask, as I'd say it's quite clear. There is a straight line to what Justin Barrett's followers call him, and it's clear that we are intended to draw that line. There's very thin room for doubt with this one. Less than one step from explicit and open.
MAX99 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:10 pm
What i can't understand is... why do the Guards have to make a seperate application to GNIB to have someone deported, ( that has been convicted of a very serious crime ) can the judge on sentencing said culprit, not automatically issue a deportation order ???
A deportation order as such is made by the Minister for Justice under immigration legislation. I think it may be the Immigration Act 1999. The exercise of the power requires consideration by the Minister of a range of factors though having a serious conviction would undoubtedly loom large.
It’s not the function of a judge though I have an idea that judges have from time to time ordered that convicts should leave the State on completion of their sentence.
Pantaloon Jeopardy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:49 am
Believe me, there's little curiosity involved, and even littler need to ask, as I'd say it's quite clear. There is a straight line to what Justin Barrett's followers call him, and it's clear that we are intended to draw that line. There's very thin room for doubt with this one. Less than one step from explicit and open.
Nonetheless, it's probably time I shut up.
Nonetheless indeed, please leave it there, thanks.
How are we going to identify "far right". On the word of a Senior Garda officer maybe? Now I've never been a fan of the Provos or their campaign in the North, but that was one piece of legislation I found it difficult to agree with.
Take the disturbances at Citywest or Coolock. I've no doubt there were agitators there and the usual cohort who just go looking for trouble, but there were also people genuinely there to protest, which is our right. Who were the far right? Would a Garda officer of sufficient rank, be close enough to the action to identify any particular individual or group? I doubt it and therefore they are relying on the word of Junior Officers which sort of blows the whole thing out of the water.
The Government and the Media can prattle on all they like about the "far right", it suits their narrative to suggest there is a subversive agenda and gives them freedom to enact draconian legislation on behalf of whoever is pulling their strings.
Being offended doesn't automatically mean you are right.
marhay70 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 10:46 am
How are we going to identify "far right". On the word of a Senior Garda officer maybe? Now I've never been a fan of the Provos or their campaign in the North, but that was one piece of legislation I found it difficult to agree with.
Take the disturbances at Citywest or Coolock. I've no doubt there were agitators there and the usual cohort who just go looking for trouble, but there were also people genuinely there to protest, which is our right. Who were the far right? Would a Garda officer of sufficient rank, be close enough to the action to identify any particular individual or group? I doubt it and therefore they are relying on the word of Junior Officers which sort of blows the whole thing out of the water.
The Government and the Media can prattle on all they like about the "far right", it suits their narrative to suggest there is a subversive agenda and gives them freedom to enact draconian legislation on behalf of whoever is pulling their strings.
Schrödinger’s far right:
When an election comes around we get told there is no hunger for the far right and they received no votes.
When there’s criticism of the government for their policies I.e. immigration/hate speech/woke gender stuff we’re told it’s the far right stoking up hatred and bigotry.
It’s a convenient way to avoid addressing issues like restrictions on speech, immigration and gender woo woo. Douglas Murray has identified and talks a lot about this, the media and governments prefer to focus on the reaction to the problem more than the problem itself.