Mary Lou for President

[NattyO]

If this claim is true it shows up our supposed democracy for what it really is

[schmittel]

Fecking Independent Ireland now having a whinge that Steen didn't make it:

Independent Ireland has commenced the process of bringing a bill before the Dáil to call for a referendum on reforming the presidential nomination system.

The party said recent events around the Presidential Election have highlighted "an affront to democracy that can no longer be ignored".

Party Leader Michael Collins said that current system is convoluted and places far too much power in the hands of too few people.

Lads, perhaps if you not waited until the 11th hour to agree to nominate her then maybe she'd have built the momentum earlier and got over the line. Don't get on your high horse about it now.

"The people of Ireland deserve the right to choose from a genuinely open field of candidates, not one curated and controlled by the establishment," Michael Collins said.

Shut up Michael, you liked the control and power your 4 votes gave you, stop being a twat and own it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0924/15350 ... l-tracker/

[Return of the Mac]

Very uninspiring line up. Guess I'll be voting for the least worst candidate. But as to who that is I'm not quite sure.

[NattyO]

So we’ve three thoroughly establishment candidates, each one well trained in protecting the status quo. Connolly can pretend to be a rebel all she likes, she is a mirror image of Higgins, and a lifelong supporter of the establishment she pretends to rebel against.

[MisterAnarchy]

If this claim is true it shows up our supposed democracy for what it really is

https://x.com/john_mcguirk/status/19707 ... mFWr4YvVmQ

There wont be a peep out of the mainstream media about it.

Yet they will be publishing multiple stories each day about "Dictator" Trump and wailing about how he is trying to destroy democracy in the US.

Trump is the gift that keeps giving, taking attention away from Irelands gombeen politicians.

[NewBroom]

There wont be a peep out of the mainstream media about it.

Maybe not... but I fully expect there to be a sustained clamour on social media.

And you can guess what our Glorious Leaders will have to say about the evils of social media & disinformation blah blah blah

Martin had the gall to come out today and defend the closing of ranks against other candidates. If he had an ounce of humility, he'd have kept his trap firmly shut tight.

[marhay70]

Whether it leaves a lacklustre field or not, Steen is no loss. A throwback to the time and views of John Charles McQuaid, this is the Ireland we've been trying to rid ourselves of for forty years.

[Catapulta]

An apple, an orange and a red cherry...

Rotten fruits!

That's it I'm not voting this time out.

[NattyO]

The shinners are hilarious, they are like a big herd of sheep.
For the last few weeks they were all hyped up because they believed Mary Lou was going to reveal some big surprise candidate and that’s all they cared about. When the army council finally got around to telling Mary Lou that she couldn’t run, and to support Connolly instead, all the sheep immediately went all in on Connolly, and pretended they were behind her all along. Yesterday, when they feared that Steen was going to get in the ballot, the order came down from Belfast “talk about her handbag” and, on cue, they all started bleating about her handbag. Even Joe Brolly, the shameless clown, started posting about handbags.
How can anyone with the capacity for independent thought roll over like that when ordered to? It’s embarrassing.

[NattyO]

Ruth Coppinger standing up for de wimmin:



Ruth Coppinger putting de wimmin back in their place:

[marhay70]

The shinners are hilarious, they are like a big herd of sheep.
For the last few weeks they were all hyped up because they believed Mary Lou was going to reveal some big surprise candidate and that’s all they cared about. When the army council finally got around to telling Mary Lou that she couldn’t run, and to support Connolly instead, all the sheep immediately went all in on Connolly, and pretended they were behind her all along. Yesterday, when they feared that Steen was going to get in the ballot, the order came down from Belfast “talk about her handbag” and, on cue, they all started bleating about her handbag. Even Joe Brolly, the shameless clown, started posting about handbags.
How can anyone with the capacity for independent thought roll over like that when ordered to? It’s embarrassing.

That's how cults operate, no dissenting voices.

[jmayo]

Whether it leaves a lacklustre field or not, Steen is no loss. A throwback to the time and views of John Charles McQuaid, this is the Ireland we've been trying to rid ourselves of for forty years.

Ah give me a break from the continous bullshyte about us trying to still rid ourselves of the church.
The churches influence has been gone for decades.
Some of us are able to remember how they had real power, how more than half the fooking country when to see the child abuse hider in chief when he visited, how their media savy ones were trotted out on the national broadcaster to spread the gospel.

By the early 90s the church was on the downwards spiral.
Mass goers had been dropping, people were living their lives and not making decisions in the bedroom based on what the local priest said.
The Casey affair was real damn breaker.
That was 1992, 33 years ago now.

Contraception was in early 90s, Divorce in 1996.
Abortion and same sex marriage were two last ones and just look round the world to when some of those came in some countries.

And please don't give me some shyte about church owned schools.
They mean nothing nowadays as both parents and kids get on with their lives.

Time to cop on and face the current and future threats.

The current one is the power of the woke church and the decisions they are making today will probably consign us to a tyranny under a far worse religious ideology.

That is what you need to worry about.

[jmayo]

Ruth Coppinger standing up for de wimmin:



Ruth Coppinger putting de wimmin back in their place:

Isn't a bit rich of that old bint talking about poor and working class women when she doesn't even know if a woman has balls or not?

[marhay70]

Ah give me a break from the continous bullshyte about us trying to still rid ourselves of the church.
The churches influence has been gone for decades.
Some of us are able to remember how they had real power, how more than half the fooking country when to see the child abuse hider in chief when he visited, how their media savy ones were trotted out on the national broadcaster to spread the gospel.

By the early 90s the church was on the downwards spiral.
Mass goers had been dropping, people were living their lives and not making decisions in the bedroom based on what the local priest said.
The Casey affair was real damn breaker.
That was 1992, 33 years ago now.

Contraception was in early 90s, Divorce in 1996.
Abortion and same sex marriage were two last ones and just look round the world to when some of those came in some countries.

And please don't give me some shyte about church owned schools.
They mean nothing nowadays as both parents and kids get on with their lives.

Time to cop on and face the current and future threats.

The current one is the power of the woke church and the decisions they are making today will probably consign us to a tyranny under a far worse religious ideology.

That is what you need to worry about.

The church is still influential in politics, schools, sport and all areas where children are involved. I've said it before, I will not be happy until every institution in control of the RCC is closed down, so don't hold your breath.

[NewBroom]

The church is still influential in politics, schools, sport and all areas where children are involved. I've said it before, I will not be happy until every institution in control of the RCC is closed down, so don't hold your breath.

Maybe but you do realise I hope that the sort of issues that Maria Steen has campaigned on, are not all edicts from the bishops. I certainly wouldn't agree with some of her stances but in other cases I quite would. The church or the RCC as you put it, is not the sole arbiter of morality. Far from it, most people have an inherent sense of what is moral in the society they live in and they get this from their families, friends and neighbours. Not the RCC by default.

[jmayo]

The church is still influential in politics, schools, sport and all areas where children are involved. I've said it before, I will not be happy until every institution in control of the RCC is closed down, so don't hold your breath.

You are playing the same game as the leftists, the modern liberals who keep telling us about removing religion from institutions like schools and hospitals, etc but yet are insidiously turning a blind eye to another religion that will make catholic schools look like naturist get togethers.

And if you think i am being alarmist, remember not so long the once darling of RTE for islamic matters started talking about segregation of females in schools.

Bishops and the church may still be technically involved in schools but trust me it matters diddly squat.

if you have had kids going through our schools in the last couple of decades you should have noticed that.
It is not like the days when I was in school in 80s when we were told you go to retreat or you find another school.

[jmayo]

Actaully interesting article in Gript by John McGuirk about how the one that really shafted Maria Steen was Michael McDowell who refused to even contact her.
He and his couple of cronies in the Seanad could have pushed her over the line.

The vibe is he was jealous of her and if she was successful it would look as if she was the main player in the defeat of the two referendums and not him.
The whole scenario makes him look petty for not supporting the main law expert that stood with him to help defeat the two referendums.

Also McCarthy does not come out of it well either even though he backed her.
He only backed her yesterday morning when he knew she would not get the necessary 20.
The pro lifer group that would have been backing Steen are also the ones that campaigned in Trinity to get him elected.

Both of these guys have just lost a lot of votes come the next Seanad election.