Gender Theory Thread

[isha]

It is sad. And astonishing.

[DeletedUser]

Nicola Sturgeon arrested.

Put her in a men’s prison seeing as she doesn’t think male bodied prisoners are any danger to women.

[Seanybiker]

Nicola Sturgeon arrested.

Put her in a men’s prison seeing as she doesn’t think male bodied prisoners are any danger to women.

Ooops I got her mixed up with someone else I thought was on the good side of things. Feck sake now I have to scan JK Rowlings twitter haha.



https://gript.ie/transgender-woman-lead ... -by-300km/



What ya think of yer man here? No physical advantage all, sure whats 300km.
Ima take up boxing.

[DeletedUser]

Ooops I got her mixed up with someone else I thought was on the good side of things. Feck sake now I have to scan JK Rowlings twitter haha.



https://gript.ie/transgender-woman-lead ... -by-300km/



What ya think of yer man here? No physical advantage all, sure whats 300km.
Ima take up boxing.

Isha put this up earlier I recall - cheaty Mc cheaterson he is!!!!

[Seanybiker]

Isha put this up earlier I recall - cheaty Mc cheaterson he is!!!!

Oh sorry I was just skimming before I went for a pint.


Yeah it's clearly he wasn't good enough . There is no honour in winning like that

[DeletedUser]

Oh sorry I was just skimming before I went for a pint.


Yeah it's clearly he wasn't good enough . There is no honour in winning like that

This is the generation that think they’re special tho mate, doubt they care about fairness sadly

[Setanta]

Isha put this up earlier I recall - cheaty Mc cheaterson he is!!!!

This piqued my interest,as such a difference is more than would be reasonably expected at top level cycling between male/female (used do mountain biking to a reasonable level,before gave up due to missing too much work with injuries)


Turns out gript is mischievous,some might suggest deliberately misleading,and this is a circuit of eire race,counting tests etc aswell?,deos noone read the links provided??...very good interactive map on it



A phonemanal performance,but overall this Hilary allen woman is neck and neck,and an average speed closer than 10% (within touching distance and 3 hours less on saddle)...Dixon being a circuit rider will surely be crucified on the hills....an interesting one to watch,I wasn't even aware this race was on

[Seanybiker]

This is the generation that think they’re special tho mate, doubt they care about fairness sadly

Yeah thats very true.

I have a few drinks on me now so I won't post as I normally upgrade the Seany talk when I'm drunk. I'm bad enough as it is

[isha]

This piqued my interest,as such a difference is more than would be reasonably expected at top level cycling between male/female (used do mountain biking to a reasonable level,before gave up due to missing too much work with injuries)


Turns out gript is mischievous,some might suggest deliberately misleading,and this is a circuit of eire race,counting tests etc aswell?,deos noone read the links provided??...very good interactive map on it



A phonemanal performance,but overall this Hilary allen woman is neck and neck,and an average speed closer than 10% (within touching distance and 3 hours less on saddle)...Dixon being a circuit rider will surely be crucified on the hills....an interesting one to watch,I wasn't even aware this race was on

The reportage is not mischievous or misleading. A male is cycling against females, claiming he is also a woman. Just because Hilary Allen or Gillian Power or Fran Bromley are phenomenal sportswomen and could take back the lead against the cheat doesn't mean he is right to do what he is doing.

Female sports isn't for male athletes. We are completely different, males and females. Women's time or strength or stamina achievements are their own records, judged against other females

We have smaller lungs, less muscle twitch fibre, different pelvic bones anatomy, less muscle mass, less explosive strength, smaller cardiovascular systems, males have higher haemoglobin to muscles therefore more oxygen, the Q angle of the female pelvis puts far more strain on female knees than male knees, plus there are other reasons.

These differences exist from conception and are augmented by the various testosterone surges males go through including in the womb and at the start of puberty. Suppression of testosterone and/or addition of female hormones doesn't reduce the advantages significantly nor can it affect the existing bodily structures shapes and sizes.

If a female beats Dixon it's because she is exceptional. And he will have cheated the next female cyclist out of her victory. As of now Dixon is 340km in front of Gillian Power who is the lead female cyclist.

[DeletedUser]

The reportage is not mischievous or misleading. A male is cycling against females, claiming he is also a woman. Just because Hilary Allen or Gillian Power or Fran Bromley are phenomenal sportswomen and could take back the lead against the cheat doesn't mean he is right to do what he is doing.

Female sports isn't for male athletes. We are completely different, males and females. Women's time or strength or stamina achievements are their own records, judged against other females

We have smaller lungs, less muscle twitch fibre, different pelvic bones anatomy, less muscle mass, less explosive strength, smaller cardiovascular systems, males have higher haemoglobin to muscles therefore more oxygen, the Q angle of the female pelvis puts far more strain on female knees than male knees, plus there are other reasons.

These differences exist from conception and are augmented by the various testosterone surges males go through including in the womb and at the start of puberty. Suppression of testosterone and/or addition of female hormones doesn't reduce the advantages significantly nor can it affect the existing bodily structures shapes and sizes.

If a female beats Dixon it's because she is exceptional. And he will have cheated the next female cyclist out of her victory. As of now Dixon is 340km in front of Gillian Power who is the lead female cyclist.

HATEFUL TRANSPHOBE!!!!

Thought I’d identify as a moron there for a sec Ish - wasn’t fun!!

[Seanybiker]

HATEFUL TRANSPHOBE!!!!

Thought I’d identify as a moron there for a sec Ish - wasn’t fun!!

Calm down sir

[isha]

To be clear, Setanta I don't think you were being mean or political with what you said - there are sports where males and females are not so disparate in performance, eg equestrian sports and long endurance running, perhaps even endurance cycling though I doubt it. The male who won last year did it in 5 days and 3 hours, the female who won did it in 6 days and I think 6 hours. This is a 20% minimum difference. It's huge at the level of elite endurance sports.
But you may be correct to be surprised at Dixon's significant lead, and you may be correct that the hills may trouble him. He should still compete against the men.

[DeletedUser]

Calm down sir

Ah Isha knows I was being saracastic to the Trans rights (aka misogynists)!!

[isha]

Article today in Reduxx about the race, which explains things a bit more clearly. Very few women competing. It is tight between males and females. Dixon should not be competing against the thirteen women. The story is becoming known abroad. Although you won't hear a word about it here.

https://reduxx.info/ireland-trans-ident ... e-cycling/

A trans-identified male cyclist is currently dominating the women’s category of an ultra-distance cycling challenge in Ireland.

Cameron Dixon, who now goes by Cara, is one of 13 participants listed in the “women’s” category of the TransAtlanticWay, a cross-country cycling challenge in Ireland. Dixon, who is from Stokesley, England, is currently topping the women’s leaderboard, riding almost 300km (approx. 180 miles) ahead of the next female challenger.

At the time of writing, Dixon has already covered 1767km (approx. 1100 miles) of the 2500km (approx. 1550 miles) challenge. The leading female cyclist is Jasmijn Muller of Brecon, Wales.

There are only 13 people taking part in the women’s category, compared to 62 in the men’s category. Dixon is currently ranked in 4th amongst all of the challengers, while the second-place female cyclist is ranked 8th overall.

If Dixon were performing in the male category, he would be ranked in a tight 4th place.

This isn’t the first time Dixon has participated in a women’s cycling category.

Earlier this year, Dixon took home the women’s prize during the Dirty Reiver gravel race in the United Kingdom, smashing second place by a significant margin.

Dixon’s race time was 1 hour and 18 minutes compared to the top female participant, who finished in 2 hours and 23 minutes. He was the only person in the category to finish in less than 2 hours, and only three female participants finished in less than 3 hours. If Dixon had competed in the men’s category, he would have placed 31st.

Dixon appears to have transitioned relatively recently, and trained and competed as a cyclist prior to identifying as a “woman.” In 2020, he gave an interview as Cameron Dixon where he disclosed that he was an engineering student and had taken up cycling in 2017.

[DeletedUser]

Article today in Reduxx about the race, which explains things a bit more clearly. Very few women competing. It is tight between males and females. Dixon should not be competing against the thirteen women. The story is becoming known abroad. Although you won't hear a word about it here.

https://reduxx.info/ireland-trans-ident ... e-cycling/

So the usual - mediocre as a male, sticks on mascara, awesome as a “woman”.

[schmittel]

So a woman with a penis is competing in a cycling event in Ireland. And women with penises are nowadays not unusual in sporting events - we've seen them in swimming, wrestling, track and field etc. How very modern.

In a measure of how far we've come as a species in a short space of time, it's worth reflecting on the fact that as recently as 2011 at the woman's football World Cup, officials inspected players genitalia to make sure the women did not have penises.

“When everyone on our team is checked, that is to say, has exposed their vagina, our team doctor can sign that the Swedish women’s national football team consists only of women.”

And for some reason they were told not to shave "down there" in the run up to the inspection.

Three cheers for progress.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... la-fischer

[jmayo]

So a woman with a penis is competing in a cycling event in Ireland. And women with penises are nowadays not unusual in sporting events - we've seen them in swimming, wrestling, track and field etc. How very modern.

In a measure of how far we've come as a species in a short space of time, it's worth reflecting on the fact that as recently as 2011 at the woman's football World Cup, officials inspected players genitalia to make sure the women did not have penises.



And for some reason they were told not to shave "down there" in the run up to the inspection.

Three cheers for progress.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... la-fischer

Call me old fashioned, but I normally refer to someone with a penis as a man or a male.

Modern women's sport where lads with willies turn up decimating the women is a freakshow, not sport any longer.

[DeletedUser]

Call me old fashioned, but I normally refer to someone with a penis as a man or a male.

Modern women's sport where lads with willies turn up decimating the women is a freakshow, not sport any longer.

Old fashioned - correct, hard to say what the up to date term is eh ???

We had a decent half century of equality and now all they have to do is stiuck lippy on and we're fcked.

[JayZeus]

Old fashioned - correct, hard to say what the up to date term is eh ???

We had a decent half century of equality and now all they have to do is stiuck lippy on and we're fcked.

In fairness, all that poor oul’ Dave wants is to put on a dress and a bit of lipstick so he can find someone who will fck him.

Poor oul’ Dave. He loves a bit of cock at the weekends when he’s all dolled up like a r/pornturnedthemintomenindresses gurl.

[DeletedUser]

In fairness, all that poor oul’ Dave wants is to put on a dress and a bit of lipstick so he can find someone who will fck him.

Poor oul’ Dave. He loves a bit of cock at the weekends when he’s all dolled up like a r/pornturnedthemintomenindresses gurl.

Tbh fair fcks to him - work away lad!!

But I’m not calling you Clarissa and letting you give me a smear test or walk round the gym showers with your lad out.

[jmayo]

Tbh fair fcks to him - work away lad!!

But I’m not calling you Clarissa and letting you give me a smear test or walk round the gym showers with your lad out.

Planespeaking you got that kinda wrong.
He aint going to be giving you the smear test (besides a lot of doctors like Obstetricians & Gynecologists are males with willies as it is).
Clarissa will be queuing up for that smear test along with you.

After all remember people do have cervixs. It's not just you women these days.

[isha]

The point is j, that while a lot of gynaecologists are male, ( a fact that has long made me wonder to be honest - there's surely not an excess of female doctors specialising in penises, is there??), there should remain the right to choose the sex of who will be dealing with your intimate parts.

I choose female gynaecologists only after a hugely traumatic incident with a male gynaecologist when I was young. I wait with the Muslim ladies in the waiting room until the female gynaecologist is ready - the male doctors are very used to this.

With the way things are going I and others will not have the right to say that the trans identifying male gynaecologist is not a woman and to request alternative care.


This may seem to be something that happens rarely but it is not trivial. There are very disabled females who want to request female only intimate care and I follow a couple of those women on Twitter. They are being abused because they don't want trans identifying men changing their tampons etc.

I don't think people realise the rate of sexual abuse that goes on in hospitals, care homes, institutions, and - something that blew my mind - even in morgues. Females must be allowed choose biologically female care givers and medics if they prefer.

[DeletedUser]

Planespeaking you got that kinda wrong.
He aint going to be giving you the smear test (besides a lot of doctors like Obstetricians & Gynecologists are males with willies as it is).
Clarissa will be queuing up for that smear test along with you.

After all remember people do have cervixs. It's not just you women these days.

The reeducation camp was full sorry

[Fugue]

"while a lot of gynaecologists are male, ( a fact that has long made me wonder to be honest - there's surely not an excess of female doctors specialising in penises, is there?)"

I've always wondered this too, isha. I prefer going to a female doctor for women's stuff - not because of any bad experiences, and when my female gp isn't around I'll see one of the male GPs no prob. But I dunno... my preference is to be dealt with by someone who knows exactly what I'm talking about due to shared experience. And I can completely understand a man preferring to see a male doctor about men's health stuff too of course.

There's a woman called Henrietta Freeman https://twitter.com/hen10freeman?t=m9qd ... 1mOQg&s=09 who has a disability requiring full-time residential care, and who has tweeted about her preference for a female carer. If you saw the evil abuse she gets from TRAs. They're all about the vulnerable just when it suits.

[isha]

Aye, Henrietta is very much in my mind when it comes to this kind of thing. I don't know how she has the strength to endure the abuse she gets.