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Mirabeau wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:50 am “I’m not really an actor. I’m not really a stand-up comedian..."
He is not really a lot of things.
Female being the absolute biggie tbf.
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isha wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:51 am Sara R Phillips, father of three, and late life transitioner to trans woman, former head of TENI, and board member of the National Council of Women in Ireland, invites us to their talk on Irish International Day of the Girl.

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This is not a woman, this is a MAN.

A mentally ill hairy bollocked lunatic in a dress.
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To be frank (heh) about my position, I don't think such sentiments about transgender people. It's apparent to me that people can be horribly uncomfortable in their bodies for many reasons, and in some cases it makes more sense for them to express themselves as other than their biological reality. It does not bother me, per se.

Having said that I don't like the clearly pornified version of female that some transgender people espouse. But that's just me.


Nonetheless there is clearly a sexual element for many transgender males ie men who identify as women. This is obvious. It's called autogynophelia. It should also be known that the fetish that was known as transvestism is also incorporate d into transgender now.

I don't mind people having fetishes, I just don't want to be forced to participate. As a child my neighbour had this transvestite fetish, he was a teen boy. He wanted me to participate and pretend he was a sexy girl. He was much older than me. I refused even though he threatened me. I refuse still.

I don't want hate directed at males who identify as women. Let them do what they want to feel good. It's not my problem. Just stay away from children with drag shows and sexualisation, and indoctrination of them with gender theory, or medically interfering with them in any way. And stay out of female private spaces, sports, prisons, opportunities and don't usurp positions where you claim to speak for "us women".

Then we can all get along, no problems.
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You hit the nail on the head Isha regarding Autogynephilia (AGP). A very quick glance around the internet will amply demonstrate that most so called transwomen are simply just males with AGP. It's clear that a huge proportion of those identifying as trans are in the grips of a paraphilia with disturbing consequences for actual women.

There are some noticeable patterns emerging such as challenging/invading women's spaces, engagement in porn content creation, sex work, and corollary obsessions with Anime and links to pedophile apologists. Why are so many 'trans' folks so determined to publicly and brazenly involve unwilling members of the public in their journeys?

However, I also have huge compassion for anyone that's genuinely suffering dysmorphia and sincerely seeking to transition. It's the militant attempts to colonise womanhood with sickening parodies that winds me up.
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I don't see (yet) how it's going to be fixed. I don't want some horrible authoritarian society that punishes people expressing wide ranges of gender feeling and diversity. But I don't want blokes with kinks in females dressing rooms either.
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isha wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:02 pm I don't see (yet) how it's going to be fixed. I don't want some horrible authoritarian society that punishes people expressing wide ranges of gender feeling and diversity. But I don't want blokes with kinks in females dressing rooms either.
Yes this is the problem! At heart I'm a liberal aul' leftie. But this shite has pushed liberalism over the edge. The danger is a kneejerk response where we end up with some kind of Handmaid's Tale scenario 🤦‍♂️
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Heard of the passing of Norah Vincent recently via assisted death. I remember watching her 18 month ‘transition’ into becoming a man and how that negatively affected her.

She once wrote, “ [Transsexuality] signifies the death of the self, the soul, that good old-fashioned indubitable 'I' so beloved of Descartes, whose great adage 'I think, therefore I am' has become an ontological joke on the order of 'I tinker, and there I am.'"

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/obit ... -dead.html
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It's not fair. It's just a mockery. Dylan off to see President Biden.

This person can be what they want, express how they like, but they have ZERO in common with being female, not as a woman, and especially not as a girl.

Also Dylan Mulvaney was a femboy gay man up until 7 or 8 months ago, when as a full grown adult he started doing this bizarre Days of Girlhood thing on TikTok. He probably has started estrogen but I know for a fact he still has his penis as in a recent video he was showing his tuck tape that he uses. So when he talks about trans kids getting the best care to be their "true" selves, he means they will take the blockers and cross sex hormones he didn't take. They will be left with prepubescent penises and atrophied vaginas, sterile, unable to orgasm, completely stunted in terms of development. While he has all the ability to function sexually.

I just sometimes think it's so sinister. I don't want hatred towards people like Dylan. But the world has to cop on to this weirdness. This is a mockery of the female condition.

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isha wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:40 pm It's not fair. It's just a mockery. Dylan off to see President Biden.

This person can be what they want, express how they like, but they have ZERO in common with being female, not as a woman, and especially not as a girl.

Also Dylan Mulvaney was a femboy gay man up until 7 or 8 months ago, when as a full grown adult he started doing this bizarre Days of Girlhood thing on TikTok. He probably has started estrogen but I know for a fact he still has his penis as in a recent video he was showing his tuck tape that he uses. So when he talks about trans kids getting the best care to be their "true" selves, he means they will take the blockers and cross sex hormones he didn't take. They will be left with prepubescent penises and atrophied vaginas, sterile, unable to orgasm, completely stunted in terms of development. While he has all the ability to function sexually.

I just sometimes think it's so sinister. I don't want hatred towards people like Dylan. But the world has to cop on to this weirdness. This is a mockery of the female condition.

He makes me vomit. He was used as model for Tampax, and has this fetish about being a “girl”. He should feck off.
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Of course Biden agreed to meet - he thought he was going to meet a young girl.
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Biden apparently told him he watches Days of Girlhood on TikTok. Must be during his ice-cream and Adderall breaks 🙄🙄🙄

I'm fairly pissed today. Not even going to link the sh!tshow. But on Friday Night Live on Channel 4 last night a comedian called Jordan Gray sang a mindbogglingly misogynistic song about how "she" as a trans woman is better than women, how "she" would f**k your mother like a mother-f**ker, does anal by default, has tits that never sag, etc etc, and to cap it off "she" ripped off all clothing at the end of the act to show off what pundits are calling "her magnificent breasts and magnificent member." "She" then finished the song playing the last notes on the keyboard with "her" mickey. And now the great and the good cannot drool and dribble enough over them and over how incredibly fabulous it all was.

It's so damn depressing. It's like the world has gone mad in every single possible way.
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isha wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:17 am Biden apparently told him he watches Days of Girlhood on TikTok. Must be during his ice-cream and Adderall breaks 🙄🙄🙄

I'm fairly pissed today. Not even going to link the sh!tshow. But on Friday Night Live on Channel 4 last night a comedian called Jordan Gray sang a mindbogglingly misogynistic song about how "she" as a trans woman is better than women, how "she" would f**k your mother like a mother-f**ker, does anal by default, has tits that never sag, etc etc, and to cap it off "she" ripped off all clothing at the end of the act to show off what pundits are calling "her magnificent breasts and magnificent member." "She" then finished the song playing the last notes on the keyboard with "her" mickey. And now the great and the good cannot drool and dribble enough over them and over how incredibly fabulous it all was.

It's so damn depressing. It's like the world has gone mad in every single possible way.
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isha wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:17 am Biden apparently told him he watches Days of Girlhood on TikTok. Must be during his ice-cream and Adderall breaks 🙄🙄🙄

I'm fairly pissed today. Not even going to link the sh!tshow. But on Friday Night Live on Channel 4 last night a comedian called Jordan Gray sang a mindbogglingly misogynistic song about how "she" as a trans woman is better than women, how "she" would f**k your mother like a mother-f**ker, does anal by default, has tits that never sag, etc etc, and to cap it off "she" ripped off all clothing at the end of the act to show off what pundits are calling "her magnificent breasts and magnificent member." "She" then finished the song playing the last notes on the keyboard with "her" mickey. And now the great and the good cannot drool and dribble enough over them and over how incredibly fabulous it all was.

It's so damn depressing. It's like the world has gone mad in every single possible way.
Just catching up with all the hooha around FNL. Jesus wept that show was abysmal. It was a shadow of the original show back in the 80s. What passes for comedy and singing talent these days is absolute dross. The whole thing was so drenched in wokery, in-jokes, and forced laughter it made me want to puke.

Don't get me wrong I have absolutely no problem seeing a naked trans person on TV. The internet is awash with far more graphic material and it takes a lot to shock me. As you also said Isha, what really pissed me off was the grovelling adoration by the media for such a talentless singer spouting such misogynistic lyrics. That was a low point in the show but the rest of it was absolute drivel too - token comics selected for identity rather than talent.
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isha wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:17 am Biden apparently told him he watches Days of Girlhood on TikTok. Must be during his ice-cream and Adderall breaks 🙄🙄🙄

I'm fairly pissed today. Not even going to link the sh!tshow. But on Friday Night Live on Channel 4 last night a comedian called Jordan Gray sang a mindbogglingly misogynistic song about how "she" as a trans woman is better than women, how "she" would f**k your mother like a mother-f**ker, does anal by default, has tits that never sag, etc etc, and to cap it off "she" ripped off all clothing at the end of the act to show off what pundits are calling "her magnificent breasts and magnificent member." "She" then finished the song playing the last notes on the keyboard with "her" mickey. And now the great and the good cannot drool and dribble enough over them and over how incredibly fabulous it all was.

It's so damn depressing. It's like the world has gone mad in every single possible way.
Sounds like something from Brass Eye
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I don't even know what that is, Avery. My range of cultural reference is fairly random 😊
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isha wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:11 pm I don't even know what that is, Avery. My range of cultural reference is fairly random 😊
You should check out Brass Eye on All4 or youtube. It was biting, cutting edge comedy and social commentary that foresaw a lot of the complete idiocy we see nowadays. Chris Morris the creator was and still is an absolute genius. Has also responsible for 'The Day Today' and 'Blue Jam' which was particularly dark.

Brass Eye: https://www.channel4.com/programmes/brass-eye

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The Day Today:
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Brass Eye was excellent and Chris Morris a genius at taking the piss!!!
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I have not heard of this political representative before. Her name is Jolene Bunting - which is somewhat funny as she has a lot of flags in her Twitter profile. She seems to be quite a religious person.
She is in a legal case against a drag queen called Cherrie Ontop, and has narrowly missed jail time for breaching a court order recently where she reposted a video of the drag queen.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 81939.html

She is in a party called Traditional Unionist Voice - never heard of them either. I see it was formed by Jim McAllister in 2007, so I obviously have not been paying much attention!

She was suspended from Belfast City Council because of her repeated comments on drag queens. It does sound as if she is not going about things in an altogether rational way. But maybe the media is portraying her badly.

Footage has emerged from a show this week at a gay bar in Belfast called The Maverick, where a drag queen named Mistress Onya Becks simulated sex acts/rape on an effigy of Jolene Bunting ie a sex doll that had Bunting's face pasted onto it.

Now I have to admit that Bunting sounds like a dose. But if any other man who was not in a dress and lipstick simulated rape as part of his entertainment I hope people would call him out. Why does the drag outfit give such protection? Why do people cheer this on? There are obviously women in the audience too, who are cheering.

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100% agreed and what I’ve said in other hate speech threads.

She might be a loathsome individual but these days a man (a proper man like) who put a hand innocently on a woman’s back 35 year ago would now face cancellation and likely a loss of a job. A man in a frock can simulate a rape for entertainment in public and even the most right on of liberal idiot is cheering them on.

I swear these days John Wayne Gary would receive a sympathetic hearing even after the body parts of an estimated 300 boys and men under his home if he announced he was trans.
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Cyclepath wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:17 am You should check out Brass Eye on All4 or youtube. It was biting, cutting edge comedy and social commentary that foresaw a lot of the complete idiocy we see nowadays. Chris Morris the creator was and still is an absolute genius. Has also responsible for 'The Day Today' and 'Blue Jam' which was particularly dark.

Brass Eye:

Blue Jam:

The Day Today:
Chris Morris is a genius. Back in January 1994, I was living in a flat in Marlborough Road. Still a student. It was a freezing evening and we were channel hopping. Saw a TV spot for The Day Today which was due to start the following evening so I got the VCR programmed and taped it. We tuned in every week. It was absolutely brilliant. Rok TV, Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan, Collaterlie Sisters....
Those TV spots (or mini episodes) later turned up on the DVD release which is really worth getting.

Brass Eye was eagerly awaited and did not disappoint. I note the late David Ames MP was in the Drugs episode.

Blue Jam was a great late night listen with a fantastic soundtrack. A few years back, I did a series of mixes based on the music played during the three series. You can listen here https://apopfansdream.wordpress.com/mix ... jam-tapes/
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Halfway through the third series of AfterLife - Ricky Gervais has rarely been better!!!

There's a cracking scene where there's a 50 year old man who identifies as an 8 year old girl - his Mrs goes "you're not trans, you're having a breakdown!!"

Cuts right through the crap!!!
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HSBC - one of the Big Four of UK banks - has announced it will pay for gender reassignment procedures for their staff, their staff's partners and their staff's children under the age of 21.

I don't care about the adults doing whatever it is they want to their bodies (albeit such procedures cannot actually change human sex), but a major bank paying to have puberties halted, mastectomies, womb removals, penis removals, and plastic surgeries (neo penis/neo vagina - ie poorly functioning simulacra of organs that occur naturally in the opposite sex) done on minors just blows my mind. The results of these treatments and operations on minors is sterility, often impotence and anorgasmia.
HSBC has received praise after confirming it will pay for staff members to undergo sex change treatments from the start of 2023.

The banking giant has also said employees' partners and children under the age of 21 could apply to have their gender reassignment surgeries paid for too.

It's UK Pride team sent an internal memo earlier this week informing staff of its new "gender dysmorphia benefit", as bosses step up plans to encourage trans and non-binary members of its team to "be their true authentic self".
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/h ... y-28463353
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isha wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:07 am ...a major bank paying to have puberties halted, mastectomies, womb removals, penis removals, and plastic surgeries (neo penis/neo vagina - ie poorly functioning simulacra of organs that occur naturally in the opposite sex) done on minors just blows my mind. The results of these treatments and operations on minors is sterility, often impotence and anorgasmia.
If you stand back from the debate and just read this out loud it's truly shocking what they propose to do. Any adult or child entering into this process is essentially a human guinea-pig - an early step on the way to 'perfecting' the very crude surgical technology.
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It blows my mind.

Is HSBC also funding boob jobs or butt implants for any "dysmorphia" their staff's children might have - lip injections and bigger breasts might help those kids get ahead with their OnlyFans careers... think of the suffering of them not being their authentic selves.

Pffft.

It's not even the worst story I've seen this week on the subject of this mind-bogglingly insane mess. I'm sparing ye generally.
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Cathal Mac Coille, respected and retired Irish broadcaster, who presented Morning Ireland for over 20 years, is getting it in the neck now for positively reporting on a conference attended by over 200 Irish women on Saturday in Dublin where they spoke about the negative impact of gender theory ideology on female issues.
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