Re: WTF moment of the day

[knownunknown]

World chess number one, Norway’s Magnus Carlson will not defend his crown this year. The match instead will be played by the winner and runner up of the candidates tournament, Russia’s Ian Nepomniatchi and China’s Ding Liren.

He cites the reason that he has simply lost interest.

[knownunknown]

Eight different New York Times columnists admit they were wrong about many topics last Thursday. Paul Krugman admits that he was wrong about inflation. Thomas Friedman admits that he was wrong about the extent of Chinese censorship. Gail Collins admits that she was wrong about Mitt Romney. And Brett Stephens admits that he was wrong about Trump voters. It is a great column and can be found here. (If you have used 10 free articles, open incognito and hit stop before the page finishes loading).

“ I regret almost nothing of what I said about the man and his close minions. But the broad swipe at his voters caricatured them and blinkered me.

It also probably did more to help than hinder Trump’s candidacy. Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds.


What were they seeing that I wasn’t?

That ought to have been the first question to ask myself. When I looked at Trump, I saw a bigoted blowhard making one ignorant argument after another. What Trump’s supporters saw was a candidate whose entire being was a proudly raised middle finger at a self-satisfied elite that had produced a failing status quo.
I was blind to this. […]
This was the climate in which Trump’s campaign flourished. I could have thought a little harder about the fact that, in my dripping condescension toward his supporters, I was also confirming their suspicions about people like me — people who talked a good game about the virtues of empathy but practice it only selectively; people unscathed by the country’s problems yet unembarrassed to propound solutions.”[…]To this day, precious few anti-Trumpers have been honest with themselves about the elaborate hoax — there’s just no other word for it — that was the Steele dossier and all the bogus allegations, credulously parroted in the mainstream media, that flowed from it.

“But here at Times Opinion, we still hold on to the idea that good-faith intellectual debate is possible, that we should all be able to rethink our positions on issues, from the most serious to the most trivial,” the Times continued. “It’s not necessarily easy for Times Opinion columnists to engage in public self-reproach, but we hope that in doing so, they can be models of how valuable it can be to admit when you get things wrong.”.

[Del.Monte]

This unspeakable c*nt gets just three and a half years for his treatment of former partner.
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/co ... ar-period/

He should have got 20 years minimum in a lunatic asylum. Unbelievably he is still a serving Garda - under suspension.

[Cyclepath]

Jesus wept what planet do these judges live on? Seriously detached from reality. That prick should never be allowed to interact with any woman ever again. He's clearly a psychopath and needs to be locked up for the safety of the general population.

[Del.Monte]

I'd love to know how he had time to perform his duties as a garda when he was so busy texting his former girlfriend - says something about his supervision.

[DeletedUser]

That idiot judge Nolan at it again - girl who was thrown under a DART and suffered life changing injuries and that tool lets the scrote walk!

[knownunknown]

This unspeakable c*nt gets just three and a half years for his treatment of former partner.
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/co ... ar-period/

He should have got 20 years minimum in a lunatic asylum. Unbelievably he is still a serving Garda - under suspension.

I could think of a few men I know that are married that could get their wife done for this crime. They usually give as much as they take, but there are incessant attacks I’ve seen that would drive me mad, but they made the choice to stay with their wives.

That Garda is a disgusting, vile, despicable scumbag with apparent anger issues, but what the hell is coercive control?!? I’d have punched him in the face for what he said but it’s not a crime and people have a choice to ignore him or not. Did he really send 30,000 messages in 4 hours without a single reply? Because if so this should constitute abuse, plain and simple we already have laws around this. We also already have laws around revenge porn that we could prosecute him with. The fact that she’s terminally ill makes this all the sadder but it does not remove her autonomy, her own self determination. Low expectations is a bigotry in and of itself.

“I always thought if I could get better, I could get away from him.” We all make choices that we don’t like all the time. It doesn’t mean it is coercive control. Dangerous Orwellian type of crime it sounds like.

[knownunknown]

Quick glance on the definition of ‘coercive control’ shows it to be a highly sex specific crime. This is a soft bigotry of low expectations against women.

Coercive control is a persistent pattern of controlling, coercive and threatening behaviour including all or some forms of domestic abuse (emotional, physical, financial, sexual including threats) by a boyfriend, partner, husband or ex. It traps women in a relationship and makes it impossible or dangerous to leave.

This can have a serious impact including the fear of violence, cause serious alarm and distress and can result in a woman giving up work, changing her routines, losing contact with family and friends. Coercive control can damage a woman’s physical and emotional well-being.

[Del.Monte]

Good to see that Garda Paul Moody is to keep his pension...you couldn't make it up.

[isha]

I don't know if this casts light on recent sentencing rulings from Irish courts, or not, but it is rather mad. At least 20% of rulings handed down from Irish courts, including the High Court, showed the fingerprints of Wikipedia on the legal reasoning and language used in judgements delivered.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 70135.html

[isha]

I could think of a few men I know that are married that could get their wife done for this crime. They usually give as much as they take, but there are incessant attacks I’ve seen that would drive me mad, but they made the choice to stay with their wives.

That Garda is a disgusting, vile, despicable scumbag with apparent anger issues, but what the hell is coercive control?!? I’d have punched him in the face for what he said but it’s not a crime and people have a choice to ignore him or not. Did he really send 30,000 messages in 4 hours without a single reply? Because if so this should constitute abuse, plain and simple we already have laws around this. We also already have laws around revenge porn that we could prosecute him with. The fact that she’s terminally ill makes this all the sadder but it does not remove her autonomy, her own self determination. Low expectations is a bigotry in and of itself.

“I always thought if I could get better, I could get away from him.” We all make choices that we don’t like all the time. It doesn’t mean it is coercive control. Dangerous Orwellian type of crime it sounds like.

If you are really ill your energy is extremely low. One is no longer like one would be under ordinary circumstances, there is a kind of twilight zone one enters where things are completely different than when in the whole of your health. It is almost like being drugged - there may be so little physical energy that getting to the toilet can be a task that finishes you for the day, and so little psychological energy that standing up for yourself or determining a solution to a problem is simply unthinkable.

Even in the whole of your health most women would find it hard to punch most men in the face. I absolutely know there are dreadful women who are disgustingly abusive to men - some of those men are my friends and they have been treated vilely, including being prevented from seeing their beloved children, which is like a living death for them.

But in this case there appears to have been genuinely psychopathic coercive control going on and this woman was not in a position to fend it off. It is not low expectations to feel aggrieved for her. It is sometimes said that walking out the door is the most dangerous moment - and it can be in the case of abused partners. Both male and female. One can live outside the damn boring and stupid battle of the sexes and see things from both sides.

[isha]

I saw this case yesterday.
It also illustrates that there are monsters in both sexes. The man here was an absolute monster, raping a two year old. There is no place in the human species for creatures like him. The woman was also a monster, watching it, knowing it was going on, and not caring that her precious tiny child was literally being ruined for life, both body and mind. 5 years seems shockingly low for such incomprehensibly monstrous and deliberate acts of negligence and cooperation with abuse.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 69490.html

PS her ''hope'' to be reunited with her children one day should never be realised. Absolute demon.

[DeletedUser]

I saw this case yesterday.
It also illustrates that there are monsters in both sexes. The man here was an absolute monster, raping a two year old. There is no place in the human species for creatures like him. The woman was also a monster, watching it, knowing it was going on, and not caring that her precious tiny child was literally being ruined for life, both body and mind. 5 years seems shockingly low for such incomprehensibly monstrous and deliberate acts of negligence and cooperation with abuse.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 69490.html

PS her ''hope'' to be reunited with her children one day should never be realised. Absolute demon.

Monster is the right word - pure unadulterated evil.

[DeletedUser]

Quick glance on the definition of ‘coercive control’ shows it to be a highly sex specific crime. This is a soft bigotry of low expectations against women.

My best friend has had this done to him - his now wife tried everything to separate him from his friends. I’m a stubborn cow tho and am going nowhere!

[CelticRambler]

Meanwhile, on the topic of chronic homelessness, here's a guy with a plan:



Put them all in camps. Concentrated, like.

The man's a genius. They should make him president, or fürher, or something.

[knownunknown]

If you are really ill your energy is extremely low. One is no longer like one would be under ordinary circumstances, there is a kind of twilight zone one enters where things are completely different than when in the whole of your health. It is almost like being drugged - there may be so little physical energy that getting to the toilet can be a task that finishes you for the day, and so little psychological energy that standing up for yourself or determining a solution to a problem is simply unthinkable.

Even in the whole of your health most women would find it hard to punch most men in the face. I absolutely know there are dreadful women who are disgustingly abusive to men - some of those men are my friends and they have been treated vilely, including being prevented from seeing their beloved children, which is like a living death for them.

But in this case there appears to have been genuinely psychopathic coercive control going on and this woman was not in a position to fend it off. It is not low expectations to feel aggrieved for her. It is sometimes said that walking out the door is the most dangerous moment - and it can be in the case of abused partners. Both male and female. One can live outside the damn boring and stupid battle of the sexes and see things from both sides.

Im still not buying the coercive control. People retain their self determination even when terminally ill. If they had a problem with their intelligence then I could understand, it’s the same reason we protect children from these types of things, but not fully grown adults without mental issues. That Garda broke plenty of existing crimes we could have prosecuted him with.

The language of this new law ‘coercive control’ uses exactly the language pushed by women’s groups who define coercive control as a man performing it on a woman. Our law might have changed this slightly removed the man performing it on to woman but everything else is exactly the same.

There seem to be two things that define it, 1. That there is a pattern of abuse or coercion, not just a single incident and 2. That the victim fears that violence will be used on them. Not that there was a threat of violence, but that there was a feeling of violence. Can a man seriously say he felt the threat of violence so he became subservient? Can he f*ck!

I haven’t studied this so maybe I am missing something but at a cursory glance this law looks like a pile of ill thought out radical feminist crap that we pushed through without much consideration.

“ We campaigned and succeeded in making coercive control a criminal offence” - women’s aid

The maximum sentence for coercive control is only 5 years despite it including ‘rape’ as an example of it. You could imprison someone with a gun and only get 5 year sentence. It’s a joke of a law.

[DeletedUser]

Have to agree a lot with the above - definitely more carried out by women than men, perhaps on a smaller scale - I'd say men use it as a means to and end to commit abuse whereas women do it purely out of control and don't (generally) intend physical harm but, sadly, many women do.

I genuinely have no idea how women let themselves be victims - I know of several bright, educated and beautiful young women that would be dressed like queens, life of the party - and once they got a boyfriend he has them only going out with him, dressing like a slob and cutting ties with family. It's cult-like behavoiur but like anything it has to be stopped at the beginning.

He doesn't like your skirt ? Wear it anyway!
Want to go out with friends ? Go.
He wants you to delete Facebook and others "as you only need me" ? Say no. If he threatens to leave, call his bluff. A genuine man will back down - a manipulative coward won't, and then at least you know.

Sadly there are women who believe they are only happy with a man - and I feel desperately sorry for them as they look down on me for being single and yet my life is free and theirs is controlled.

[isha]

Hollywood made films to glamourise, propagandise and recruit for World War II, so this is not something new.
http://concordiamemoryproject.concordia ... /hollywood

But still I find this distastefully odd, even verging on weird, this photoshoot by Vogue in the Ukraine.

[isha]

This is only my second WTF moment of the day, after first learning about older ladies going for sex tourism in Africa - the day is young yet and maybe there are lots more WTFs ahead of me! Oh joy!

Anyway I saw this Ryanair tweet and this is what I stupidly thought ...oh look, Ryanair are kind of making a kind of lame joke about a row of seats waving at a prospective passenger, I wonder why they used the word William??...oh welll tralalalla..(didn't think about it again)



Picture just in case it gets deleted...



And then I found out that the joke is about Prince William supposedly having an affair. And ...I don't know how to break this to ye...pegging is involved. And Ryanair is referencing that in their tweet.

[BrianD3]

And then I found out that the joke is about Prince William supposedly having an affair. And ...I don't know how to break this to ye...pegging is involved. And Ryanair is referencing that in their tweet.

Definitely a WTF moment and I hadn't heard any of this before this thread as I zone out royal family stuff. "Prince of Pegging" - sounds like a Richard "Gerbil" Gere type story for the 21st century!

[isha]

Zoiks. Don't tell me there is some weird story out there about Richard Gere and a gerbil I literally cannot bear to check. I'm just not going to.

This is a bad week for WTFs - not more than a few days ago I heard a different WTF about Tony Blair and all I'm going to say is Miranda, and a different tale about a Charles Lynton misusing public toilets

Can these posh people not just be fecken normal!

[knownunknown]

Wikipedia suspends edits on their ‘recession’ page after Biden and his admin try to redefine what it means.

[DeletedUser]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... l#comments

In today's edition of The World Is Mad .....!!!!

[knownunknown]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... l#comments

In today's edition of The World Is Mad .....!!!!

If this was a joke it would be hilarious! There’s no room left for satire anymore.

“ 'I think being a man will help me to break down barriers, reduce stigma and encourage more open discussions. Although affecting women directly, periods are an issue for everyone. ”

[knownunknown]

A CPS(child protective services) worker in Texas has been fired for pressuring a 14 year old girl to prostitute herself. The worker should be jailed for life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ITUTE.html