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Israel and Palestine

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Re: Israel and Palestine

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🇺🇸❌🇵🇸 The US officially ends operations of the floating dock in Gaza. The bluff failed.

🛳 A pier built by the US military that supposedly served as a way to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza will be dismantled and returned home.

The temporary pier, which the US said was intended to complement rather than replace land routes, was severely damaged less than two weeks after it was attached to the shoreline. After severe weather and high tides caused significant damage, Washington stopped using the pier to deliver humanitarian aid, but it was quickly repaired and secured in place. The severe storm at sea also damaged four US military vessels supporting the mission in the Gaza Strip. Two of them became stranded near the pier, while the other two washed ashore in Israel near Ashkelon during the initial damage.

🇵🇸 Many countries supporting Palestine and Gaza have repeatedly accused the United States of using the pier as a naval base. The illegal construction in Gaza, the management of which the Americans entrusted to Israel, raised a number of questions. But humanitarian aid never reached the Palestinians. Many photos and videos were found online showing that assistance was provided to IDF soldiers instead. 🤥

To avoid a larger scandal surrounding the illegal construction surrounded by four American military vessels, the US is dismantling the $320 million pier just 2 months after it was built.
— Yeni Safak

Yet another obvious example of USA failed "aid".
But I do not see much negative comment about it in Western media.
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Trump has upped the ante, having spent every speech since his confirmation, he now comes out with this

“And to the entire world, I tell you this, we want our hostages back — and they better be back before I assume office, or you will be paying a very big price,” he told the crowd. “With our victory in November, the years of war, weakness and chaos will be over.”

Apparently he now an Israeli.

Earlier this year Trump reportedly (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... cy-donors/) told a group of Jewish Republican donors that he would crush the Gaza encampments and deport protesters if necessary.

“If you get me re-elected, we’re going to set that movement back 25 or 30 years,” said the former President.


It appears to me that the only end possible is a regional war, which could easily escalate.

Should that happen I hope the Zionists and their supporters get what I think they deserve ..... a sudden and extreme end.
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Re: Israel and Palestine

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Isreal found guilty of what was obvious to anyone with years.....it's just grate that Ireland is deeply entangled with the EU and Von Der Lyon in assisting/supporting this breaking of international law
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The view of a Jew living in Israel and an ex-IDF officer.

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Iran is getting ready to step up and strike. US saying they will still back Israel.
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Norman Breaks wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:09 pm Iran is getting ready to step up and strike. US saying they will still back Israel.
The US can't stop Iran, israel has clearly indicated it's interests in a political settlement with it's elimination of political representatives.....a lot of countries,and politicians put their necks on the line,to facilitate negociations,hostage transfers and peace talks,while Isreal went about and assinated those doing negociations


It's time for people to get real,about who and what is driving conflict and division in the middle east, because it feels like an entire generation have been lied to about islam,and what is point of any peace talks,when negotiators get assinated,its time for world to intervene to protect innocent people or arm,with modern weaponry,them to defend themselves
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I saw a meme on insta. It's the Phoebe and Joey one where she explains things step by step and Joey follows along but messes up in the last slide.

Phoebe: Who is attacking Gaza?

Joey: Israel

Phoebe: Who is attacking Lebanon?

Joey: Israel

Phoebe: Who is attacking Syria?

Joey: Israel

Phoebe: Who is attacking Yemen?

Joey: Israel

Phoebe: Who is the biggest threat to security in the Middle East?

Joey: IRAN!
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Sinwar has been appointed head of hamas....a fascinating individual when you look into his history and what he (and countless thousands others) endured in prisons in Israel funded by the yanks and EU.....it was on a par with the worst of ways,Ireland's Fenians were treated in the 19th century in English prisons,or the conditions in the H-blocks in the north



They couldn't break their resolve,I cannot see the resolve of palestinians being broken either.... Israel has taken thousands upon thousands hostage since launching this genocide,and its unrepeatable what torture,that's come out they've done to so many.... the EU are propping up a lot of war criminals,and human rights abusers there,and people need to be aware of what this blind support for Europe has tied them to
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Setanta wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:12 pm Sinwar has been appointed head of hamas....a fascinating individual when you look into his history and what he (and countless thousands others) endured in prisons in Israel funded by the yanks and EU.....it was on a par with the worst of ways,Ireland's Fenians were treated in the 19th century in English prisons,or the conditions in the H-blocks in the north



They couldn't break their resolve,I cannot see the resolve of palestinians being broken either.... Israel has taken thousands upon thousands hostage since launching this genocide,and its unrepeatable what torture,that's come out they've done to so many.... the EU are propping up a lot of war criminals,and human rights abusers there,and people need to be aware of what this blind support for Europe has tied them to
This is only the latest manifestation of a deep sickness that has apparently always been present in mankind.
It is not possible to look back in time and fail to see regular examples of man's sickness and criminality.
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Are the same people that were outraged by the Israeli claims of mass rape (no evidence) appalled at the video evidence of rape and cover up of a Palestinian abductee?
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The hypocrisy is maddening

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Norman Breaks wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:37 pm The hypocrisy is maddening

It's sickening,so many people,who I've seen spent their lives speak out against historical wrong doing are completely silent on an ongoing genocide,is disgusting


How can anyone be expected to respect the political establishment here or in the west anymore.....theres thousands upon thousands of war criminals in Israel now,and their leader,who's wanted on war crimes charges,is fêted in America and Europe.... honestly it's time for Ireland to re-evaluate it's international relations with a lot of countries and begin to curtail diplomatic engagement with those who've been in a position to stop flow of armaments and have refused to do so
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More than a hundred civilians dead due to an Israeli strike with three missiles on a school sheltering displaced people.
There is great difficulty in the recovery process because people are blown into pieces.

A ghoulish jigsaw!
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It`s horrendous and the international community just turns a blind eye because they are backed by the US. Sickening.
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Continue the Boycotts at least as long as the Genocide continues.
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Norman Breaks wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:09 pm

Continue the Boycotts at least as long as the Genocide continues.
Continue the boycott until those responsible are held responsible and in jail or the ground


I think il be like the PBP people and actively boycott Israel goods for rest of my life.....dunno if I'd actively protest yet though
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Setanta wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:42 pm Continue the boycott until those responsible are held responsible and in jail or the ground

I think il be like the PBP people and actively boycott Israel goods for rest of my life.....dunno if I'd actively protest yet though
There is a mobile app called Boycat. Use it at the grocery store to scan barcodes to let you know if a product is owned by a company supporting the genocide. Some of these companies are getting crafty with their labeling so this helps.
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Norman Breaks wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:42 pm There is a mobile app called Boycat. Use it at the grocery store to scan barcodes to let you know if a product is owned by a company supporting the genocide. Some of these companies are getting crafty with their labeling so this helps.
I think I will....I cannot stomach being helpless in regards this anymore,and realistically there's not much other I can do
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$20B+ in arms sales for a genocide.
Meanwhile over 1/2M people homeless and nearly 40M people below the poverty line in the US.
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An interesting view of the present situation while Israel awaits Iran's retaliation for Israel's assassinations and bombings.

https://thecradle.co/articles/how-a-bri ... own-israel
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https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1825527764230811671

"According to reports, the proposal now being pushed by Israel & the US abandons the Security Council res. and includes no permanent ceasefire, no full withdrawal of Israeli troops, no free movement of survivors back to the north of Gaza, continued Israeli control of the Netzarim Corridor cutting Gaza in half, no withdrawal from the Philadelphi Corridor, no withdrawal from the Rafah crossing, no comprehensive release of Palestinian prisoners, no end to the genocide, no accountability for the perpetrators. This is not a ceasefire proposal. It is further cover for a genocide."
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65% of Israeli Jews oppose criminal prosecution for soldiers suspected of raping Palestinian detainees
A shocking new poll shows that almost two out of three Jewish Israelis oppose criminal prosecution for soldiers suspected of gang-raping Palestinian detainees at the Sde Teiman torture facility.
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/08/65-of-is ... detainees/
The survey asked the question:

“Recently, the military prosecution requested to extend the arrest of the five soldiers suspected of gross abuse, and clarified that there is added evidence which strengthens the suspicion against them. In your opinion, if it turns out that there is basis for the suspicion against the suspects, in which way should they be handled?”

Only 28% of Jewish Israelis answered that “they should stand criminal trial”; 14% of Jewish Israelis didn’t know.
That figure, 65%, also echoes the February poll saying that 68% of Jewish Israelis “oppose the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza residents at this time,” even if Hamas or UNRWA were out of the picture in terms of distribution.
The most moral people in the ahole wide world! :roll:
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PureIsle wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:45 pm https://mondoweiss.net/2024/08/65-of-is ... detainees/





The most moral people in the ahole wide world! :roll:
These people are actively committing a genocide,bombing aid workers for fun,protesting aid going to starving refugees,sniping schoolchildren (in between bombing schools full of refugees) and kidnapping thousands upon thousands to torture and rape camps

They've long since lost their humanity,the fact they widely oppose holding people whom rape Palestinians to justice, shouldn't be a shock to anyone,it's a country of tens of thousands of war criminals,cheered on by it's public......quiet why Ireland still has diplomatic ties to this regime,and the EU who assists them,and yanks who arm them, is a fairly good measure of what the establishment and 100 years of free staters rule,stands for.....tear the whole state here down,and time to go our own way,than be implicated in this slaughter
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Setanta wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:26 pm These people are actively committing a genocide,bombing aid workers for fun,protesting aid going to starving refugees,sniping schoolchildren (in between bombing schools full of refugees) and kidnapping thousands upon thousands to torture and rape camps

They've long since lost their humanity,the fact they widely oppose holding people whom rape Palestinians to justice, shouldn't be a shock to anyone,it's a country of tens of thousands of war criminals,cheered on by it's public......quiet why Ireland still has diplomatic ties to this regime,and the EU who assists them,and yanks who arm them, is a fairly good measure of what the establishment and 100 years of free staters rule,stands for.....tear the whole state here down,and time to go our own way,than be implicated in this slaughter
We cannot 'go it alone', at least not without the whole society going back about 50 years or more, and there is no way any government could manage that - not without being hung!
Fancy travelling on donkey and cart, or pony and trap for the rich?
How many would go along with that idea? :D

So nice theory, but cannot happen in practice.
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PureIsle wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:56 pm We cannot 'go it alone', at least not without the whole society going back about 50 years or more, and there is no way any government could manage that - not without being hung!
Fancy travelling on donkey and cart, or pony and trap for the rich?
How many would go along with that idea? :D

So nice theory, but cannot happen in practice.
How can we not?

Everything is impossible,until it's done.....we rely too much on outsiders and never develop our domestic economy enough (it's been in recession with years now)

It's inevitable Europe will develop an army and eventually conscript Irish to front lines of folly in the Ukraine and to assist genocides for Israel in the future..... we're better alone than to send our youth to die for leftists and mega corporation's IMO,free staters,are evil,and have far too much say here,they've made a mess of running the country and developed the worst economy in the world, we're long overdue a change
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