Israel and Palestine

[Setanta]

So agree with the narrative, shut up or go to jail. Those are the choices.



Israel has passed this law, that will imprison any citizen that questions the government’s version of Oct 7 for 5 years, even though police investigation revealed the majority of deaths came from IDF Apache helicopters.

Is it not strange that Israel finds it necessary to force people to comply with the official version regard this event? Of course they have done this previously regarding the Holocaust narrative.
This law has been modelled after a 1986 law banning Holocaust denial.




https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-p ... -massacre/

It's the only democracy in the middle east,and its easy to see why many other middle eastern countries are slow to turn democratic,a damn poor advertisement for democracy

They will do same as regards the slaughter inside Gaza,lock up whistleblowers, ignoring of course two million residents who watched on as their friends, family and neighbours were slaughtered and deny their testimonies,the same as what happened in bloody Sunday.......this is what liberials democracy brings the middle east

[PureIsle]

Trump calls for ethnic cleansing of Gaza's population to Egypt, Jordan

Trump's suggestion to move Palestinians to neighboring Arab states echoes a leaked proposal by Israel's Ministry of Intelligence to ethnically cleanse Gaza under humanitarian pretexts

So now the USA openly advocatres ethnic cleansing of Gaza, which when coupled with Israel's present actions and intent in the West Bank means ethnic cleansing of all of Palestine.

That statement alone from Trump should be sufficient for the ICC to issue an arrest warrant for him, IMO!

https://thecradle.co/articles/trump-cal ... ypt-jordan

[PureIsle]

So now Gaza is to become part of the USA ... Trump says 'we will own it' that is of course after he ethnically cleanses it and levels what is left of the homes and then procedes to build nice seaside dwellings on it for those left in the region.

It looks like USA wants to do what Israel failed to do - completely empty Gaza and rebuild it.
I wonder if Trump will use the plans already made public by Israel for all those sea-font homes ?

Sometimes I wish that their god would simply smite them and give the rest of the world some peace and security.

[kadman]

Trump is far more dangerous than any russian speaking tyrant.

But we will still love him and bring a bowl of shamrock on paddys day.

[Setanta]

So now Gaza is to become part of the USA ... Trump says 'we will own it' that is of course after he ethnically cleanses it and levels what is left of the homes and then procedes to build nice seaside dwellings on it for those left in the region.

It looks like USA wants to do what Israel failed to do - completely empty Gaza and rebuild it.
I wonder if Trump will use the plans already made public by Israel for all those sea-font homes ?

Sometimes I wish that their god would simply smite them and give the rest of the world some peace and security.

It's not trump's to take,no more than it's Israel or Kiev is Moscow's to take...Gaza is a seperate country part of Palestine, recognised as such by most of the world, including Ireland



The whole plan is nonsense,lacking in substance or planning.....rebuild Gaza,into what,an Mecca for militants and disgruntled Muslims to attack for centuries?....whos going to live in an area periodically attacked, particularly with Isis holding control over large parts of the Sinai from which attacks could be launched......it's a wet dream that nethanyu told trump,who spat it out as his own idea

[PureIsle]

"I, Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America, find that the International Criminal Court, as established by the Rome Statute, has engaged in illegitimate and baseless actions targeting America and our close ally Israel. The ICC has, without a legitimate basis, asserted jurisdiction over and opened preliminary investigations concerning personnel of the United States and certain of its allies, including Israel, and has further abused its power by issuing baseless arrest warrants targeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Former Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant,"

"The United States will impose tangible and significant consequences on those responsible for the ICC's transgressions, some of which may include the blocking of property and assets, as well as the suspension of entry into the United States of ICC officials, employees, and agents, as well as their immediate family members, as their entry into our nation would be detrimental to the interests of the United States," Trump said in his executive order.

Pity the ICC will not issue a warrant for his hide!

[PureIsle]

Former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, has finally admitted, on Israeli television, that Israel implemented the Hannibal Directive on Oct 7. The Hannibal Directive is a military strategy aimed at preventing the capture of Israeli soldiers, even if it means killing them, or civilians, to prevent it.

Israeli soldiers opened fire, with tanks and attack helicopters, on their own soldiers and civilians.

Moreover, given Israel prohibited any investigation, he also admitted that we are therefore never likely to know how many civilians the IDF/IOF killed and how many, if any, Hamas killed.

There really is no limit to Israel’s depravity.

E.K.Bartlett


Ex-Israeli war chief confirms issuing Hannibal Directive to kill own civilians, soldiers on 7 Oct
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/28788

So not only is the existence of that Hannibal Directive now confirmed, but all those "anti-semitism" accusations about reports of its use on Oct. 7th are shown to be ignorant defences of that disgusting regime.

[knownunknown]

The coffins containing dead babies(babies that were abducted on oct 7) have been paraded through Gaza, loud festive music playing in the background with jeers, whistling and booing from the crowd. Morally corrupt society that.

[knownunknown]

Arafat: Dead children are the greatest message to the world

[PureIsle]

Israeli warplanes have dropped leaflets over Gaza, warning Palestinians that they will be erased from existence if they do not comply with Israel’s demands to leave the territory. The leaflets, which feature images of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump, claim that the world “will not care if Gaza disappears” and that Trump’s displacement plan “will be enforced whether you accept it or not.” The messages further taunt Palestinians, stating that “even your Arab countries, which are now our allies, provide us with money and weapons while sending you only shrouds.” In a final attempt to coerce civilians, the leaflets offer aid in exchange for cooperation with Israeli forces.

The threats follow a recent warning from Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, which revealed that Israel has been using drones to terrorise Palestinians with recorded messages of impending mass displacement. One message chillingly states, “If you do not wake up from slumber, they will bring a second and third Nakba upon you,” followed by the sound of an ambulance siren. The genocidal campaign against Gaza has already killed over 48,000 Palestinians, mostly women and children, and despite failing to achieve its military goals, Israel was forced to accept the conditions for a ceasefire set by Palestinian resistance factions.

An Israeli ceasefire is meaningless. Israel has daily committed murders during their alleged ceasefires. All they know apparently is destruction, based on their actions to date. Wanton destruction wherever they go, Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon ....

Heck they even murdered their own, regardless their age, and then made a huge deal about the two children's bodies who they murdered being returned.
Apparently the children's mother could not even be identified or distinguished from others who were killed at the same time.

It is disgusting to see the president of the USA call for ethnic cleansing and provide Israel with huge bombs to enable them to achieve it quicker.

I guess those butchers support each other.
May their god awake and smite them from the face of the earth, and give us all some peace.

If their god won't do it, I suspect some others in the region will eventually grow some balls and do it for him. Hopefully it will not be too late for the Palestinians.

[Setanta]

After bombing their own empty buses to justify murdering more palestinians in the west bank

Israel has refused to release an agreed 600 hostages as part of the exchanges.... Zionists can't be trusted,it's been a terrible mistake by west propping them up

[knownunknown]

After bombing their own empty buses to justify murdering more palestinians in the west bank

Israel has refused to release an agreed 600 hostages as part of the exchanges.... Zionists can't be trusted,it's been a terrible mistake by west propping them up

Israel has been attacked hundreds of times by terrorists in Palestine over the decades. There is no shortage of terrorists willing to give their lives for jihad. A lot of the people planning attacks were arrested. These people are considered prisoners, not hostages. A hostage is a civilian who hasn’t committed a crime or even been accused of committing a crime. Think of the baby bibas that was kidnapped on oct.7th, at the age of six months old, that person was a hostage.

A prisoner is someone like Sinwar, the person who orchestrated and led the attacks on oct. 7th was a prisoner.

In 1989, Sinwar(Now the leader of Hamas).was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences for abducting and murdering two Israeli soldiers, and served in an Israeli prison—reportedly learning Hebrew there—until his 2011 release, part of a massive prisoner swap in which Israeli officials freed more than 1,000 prisoners in exchange for Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who had been captured by Hamas.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/yahya-s ... al-6817591#

Words have real meanings and you should learn what they mean before you use them. All that comes across in your posts lately is an admiration of terrorists, people who attack civilians to achieve political goals. It’s disgusting.

[knownunknown]

https://www.gubu.ie/viewtopic.php?p=57521#p57521

[Setanta]

Israel has been attacked hundreds of times by terrorists in Palestine over the decades. There is no shortage of terrorists willing to give their lives for jihad. A lot of the people planning attacks were arrested. These people are considered prisoners, not hostages. A hostage is a civilian who hasn’t committed a crime or even been accused of committing a crime. Think of the baby bibas that was kidnapped on oct.7th, at the age of six months old, that person was a hostage.

A prisoner is someone like Sinwar, the person who orchestrated and led the attacks on oct. 7th was a prisoner.



https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/yahya-s ... al-6817591#

Words have real meanings and you should learn what they mean before you use them. All that comes across in your posts lately is an admiration of terrorists, people who attack civilians to achieve political goals. It’s disgusting.

hostage is a civilian who hasn’t committed a crime or even been accused of committing a crime.

How many of the 600 hostages have been convicted before a jury?

All that comes across in your posts lately is an admiration of terrorists, people who attack civilians to achieve political goals. It’s disgusting.

Where have I expressed support or admiration for nethanyu or Zionists?

[PureIsle]

Israel advancing 'Greater Jerusalem' plan

An Israeli ministerial committee is set to approve a bill on Sunday that would legalize the annexation of settlements around occupied East Jerusalem in an effort to establish a "Greater Jerusalem," according to a report by Haaretz. The bill, introduced by Likud MK Dan Iluz, aims to incorporate settlements such as Ma’ale Adumim, Beitar Illit, Givat Ze’ev, Efrat, and Ma’ale Mikhmas into a new administrative framework. If approved by the committee, the bill will proceed to the Knesset for a preliminary reading and, if passed, will require three readings before becoming law. Support for the bill is strong among both the government and some opposition factions, suggesting broad political backing for further annexation moves.

Haaretz quoted the left-wing Israeli association Ir Amim, which warned that the bill could pave the way for additional annexation in the West Bank and serve as a major obstacle to any future political solution. Iluz defended the measure, asserting that it is a necessary step toward full sovereignty over “Judea and Samaria” (the West Bank), comparing it to previous laws passed despite international pressure. -The Cradle

... and so things move on. The Israeli army is preparing the West Bank by daily bombings of homes and killings of the resident population, and, as it seems, 'official' annexation could soon occur, there will be precious little left of Palestinian land or its people.

The deliberate destruction by the Israelis of buildings, homes, roads, businesses, livestock and apparently anything else they fancy as well as the people in the West Bank, in similar fashion to what they have done in Gaza is almost unbelievable it is so wanton.

This is sickening to the core.
What is even more sickening is that not one of our 'western' politicians seems inclined to do anything (except blurb platitudes) about it, and yes I include Irish politicians in that.

One could easily come to the conclusion that no one in 'Western society' deserves to live while standing idly bye. Maybe the best thing for this planet would be WWIII with the elimination of all Western societies with their own nukes!

Also from The Cradle

Knesset prepares 'Greater Jerusalem' mass settlement expansion plan
The bill is being pushed by a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party and aims to annex the territory of several settlements surrounding occupied Jerusalem

https://thecradle.co/articles/knesset-p ... nsion-plan

and

UN warns Israel escalating displacement of Palestinians 'at alarming pace' in preparation for West Bank annexation
Israel is implementing the same tactics it used in Gaza to destroy cities and towns in the occupied

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/28857

[Setanta]

Israel threatened to rage quit Ireland when the government pointed out they cut food entering Gaza straving civilians


Today is the 8th day of their latest war crime of stopping aid entering,not a word out of the left here,and their embassy still in Dublin.....we have the worst the government in the world

[knownunknown]

Former commander of British forces colonel Richard kemp at the UN.

[knownunknown]

This is the first army in history, that I know of, that has deliberately wanted its enemy to kill its own civilian population”.

Once you start to understand this everything else makes perfect sense.

[knownunknown]

Two days ago a tweet went around about two pro Palestinians activists(people before profit members: Zeina Ismail and Lena Seale) targeting and spitting on a couple of Israelis tourists here in Ireland. If it were a couple of black peoples being assaulted for being black I’m sure the bystanders would have done something, or the police that arrived would have actually cared. This is the left who will bleat on about respect, inclusion, diversity, blah blah blah.

I used to wonder why people hate Jews so much, how could World War II have happened. It’s because of attitudes like this. It’s acceptable to hate them.

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-israeli ... 0-Mar2025/

[Setanta]

Two days ago a tweet went around about two pro Palestinians activists(people before profit members: Zeina Ismail and Lena Seale) targeting and spitting on a couple of Israelis tourists here in Ireland. If it were a couple of black peoples being assaulted for being black I’m sure the bystanders would have done something, or the police that arrived would have actually cared. This is the left who will bleat on about respect, inclusion, diversity, blah blah blah.

I used to wonder why people hate Jews so much, how could World War II have happened. It’s because of attitudes like this. It’s acceptable to hate them.

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-israeli ... 0-Mar2025/

Spitting is vile and them two will end up in court,but we need to get a grip on immigration here,this fellow has all hallmarks of a spy,and given comes from a country that openly hates and us can't imagine it's for positive intentions coming here

it's time the left answered as to who approved his entry into Ireland a few days before Paddy's day.......is there anyone responsible for border security here,letting agents of a country that hates us in,is as irresponsible as routing an orange parade alongside a building site


https://il.linkedin.com/in/tamir-ohayon-2aa420198

[knownunknown]

Spitting is vile and them two will end up in court,but we need to get a grip on immigration here,this fellow has all hallmarks of a spy,and given comes from a country that openly hates and us can't imagine it's for positive intentions coming here

it's time the left answered as to who approved his entry into Ireland a few days before Paddy's day.......is there anyone responsible for border security here,letting agents of a country that hates us in,is as irresponsible as routing an orange parade alongside a building site


https://il.linkedin.com/in/tamir-ohayon-2aa420198

Come back to me when there’s proof he’s a spy. Even if he was this lady Zeina Ismail, is Lebanon born, tiktok moderator who has called to make October 7th a public holiday and called for intifada, the death of all Jews. This is the Irish woman accosting the Israeli in the video.

It’s not about Palestinian statehood, it’s about destroying Israel.

Im not on TikTok but I’m guessing this is where you and many others are getting radicalized against Israel. Is that where you get the news?

https://m.jpost.com/bds-threat/article-806156

[Setanta]

Come back to me when there’s proof he’s a spy. Even if he was this lady Zeina Ismail, is Lebanon born, tiktok moderator who has called to make October 7th a public holiday and called for intifada, the death of all Jews. This is the Irish woman accosting the Israeli in the video.

It’s not about Palestinian statehood, it’s about destroying Israel.

https://m.jpost.com/bds-threat/article-806156

The bloke works in software/AI R & D for the military,openly states so on his LinkedIn.....unless you expect mossad to reveal names of its agents,this is enough for me,to suspect and question why the establishment are letting in people from military of a country who hates us, particularly those who should at a minimum require surveillance by special branch.....it's our national security at risk,these people hate Ireland and want to destroy us and our future,for not bending the knee to them



What's gone so wrong with our country that we have no regard for national security,whomever approved issued this visa, needs to answer for his/her decision.... there embassy openly calls our country hostile,and their military are then given free reign to enter our country at will and no restrictions put on it?? wtf..... we've badly lost our way as a country,and let leftists piss away immigration and security controls too far

[knownunknown]

The bloke works in software/AI R & D for the military,openly states so on his LinkedIn.....unless you expect mossad to reveal names of its agents,this is enough for me,to suspect and question why the establishment are letting in people from military of a country who hates us, particularly those who should at a minimum require surveillance by special branch.....it's our national security at risk,these people hate Ireland and want to destroy us and our future,for not bending the knee to them



What's gone so wrong with our country that we have no regard for national security,whomever approved issued this visa, needs to answer for his/her decision.... there embassy openly calls our country hostile,and they are then given free reign to enter our country at will and no restrictions put on it..... we've badly lost our way as a country,and let leftists piss away immigration and security controls too far

If that’s enough for you to spit and abuse a tourist while he’s having a pint in a pub you’re no different then the ones who out up the signs,
“No dogs, no blacks, no Irish”.

Your response to this is disgraceful and only highlights how deeply entrenched in this issue you are.

[Setanta]

If that’s enough for you to spit and abuse a tourist while he’s having a pint in a pub you’re no different then the ones who out up the signs,
“No dogs, no blacks no Irish”.

Nah.....I've never said it's ok to spit,openly said its vile,but I query the woke narrative at every tom,dick and harry allowed piss around our country from the IDF is a tourist and want whomever issued the visa to answer for their decision and drew Harris to answer as to how many of these type visas are in country at any one time and why are unsurveilled



No potential forgien agents from countries that dispise us and undermine us on international stage.....either we stand for Ireland or outsiders,which is it?

As for accusations of entrenched,I make no apology for being a nationalist and don't court the woke one world government agenda and put Irish interests first

[knownunknown]

Nah.....I've never said it's ok to spit,openly said its vile,but I query the woke narrative at every tom,dick and harry allowed piss around our country from the IDF is a tourist and want whomever issued the visa to answer for their decision



No potential forgien agents from countries that dispise us and undermine us on international stage.....either we stand for Ireland or outsiders,which is it?

The only response to this incident should be those two crazy scumbags should get maximum punishment. You are justifying their actions. No zionists, no dogs, no blacks, no Irish.

Do you really not get it? People before profit are the politically correct, woke party. I think you are purposefully obfuscating here. All to defend a narrative you’ve bought into.

McCarthyism is not the answer to anything.