Israel and Palestine

[Setanta]

The only response to this incident should be those two crazy scumbags should get maximum punishment. You are justifying their actions. No zionists, no dogs, no blacks, no Irish.

Do you really not get it?

I've no problem with them getting max punishment


But I want answers as to why members of idf,a country hostile to Ireland,are being visa for Ireland and whom is approving these visas,and why forgien agents from a hostile country aren't being surveiled.....I was at a meeting during the week,for the local Easter commeration,and special branch were across the road taking photos of attendees,but outside agents of a hostile country are given free reign to enter here at will....and anyone who questions this is shouted down and accused of all sorts....

This is everything that is wrong with the woke agenda,it undermines countries sovernity and attempts to silence any questions or critiques

[knownunknown]

I've no problem with them getting max punishment


But I want answers as to why members of idf,a country hostile to Ireland,are being visa for Ireland and whom is approving these visas,and why forgien agents from a hostile country aren't being surveiled.....I was at a meeting during the week,for the local Easter commeration,and special branch were across the road taking photos of attendees,but outside agents of a hostile country are given free reign to enter here at will....and anyone who questions this is shouted down and accused of all sorts....

This is everything that is wrong with the woke agenda,it undermines countries sovernity and attempts to silence any questions or critiques

Do you know what McCarthyism was? Do you think it was successful?

[Setanta]

Do you know what McCarthyism was? Do you think it was successful?

Aye....always struck me,the attempts at labeling any questioning of Israel as anti-Semitism as from the same stable TBH


I wouldn't regard it as successful, because by silencing and pushing out commies,the yanks let looney leftists take over and now are in a position where most of its population (and arguably a huge % of western world)are servile to interests of banks,mega corporations and the 1%.....if this was it's intended outcome,it's a success,if it was not it's intended outcome,it was a failure .....might be for a different thread though

[knownunknown]

Aye....always struck me,the attempts at labeling any questioning of Israel as anti-Semitism as from the same stable TBH


I wouldn't regard it as successful, because by silencing and pushing out commies,the yanks let looney leftists take over and now are in a position where most of its population (and arguably a huge % of western world)are servile to interests of banks,mega corporations and the 1%.....if this was it's intended outcome,it's a success,if it was not it's intended outcome,it was a failure .....might be for a different thread though

You are accusing this man of being a spy without sufficient evidence, an attempt to justify the actions somewhat taken against him. This is the very definition of McCarthyism.

The political practice of publicizing accusations of disloyalty or subversion with insufficient regard to evidence

Instead he is being accused of being a ‘Zionist’.

(We all know this is code for Jew)

[Setanta]

You are accusing this man of being a spy without sufficient evidence, an attempt to justify the actions somewhat taken against him. This is the very definition of McCarthyism.




(We all know this is code for Jew)

You are accusing this man of being a spy without sufficient evidence

Literally lists his job as software/AI R&D developer for military,with two years and two months.....Its a fairly strong red flag to require surveillance and someone answer for how he got a visa....a forgien military agent of a country that hates us.....the woke won't like this,but there's absolutely zero wrong with questioning this, particularly in light of the threat to our national security of a malign country that hates us

Zionist

This being the ideology that believes in a Jewish homeland,not a bad idea,but it's been tried and they've had 80 years to make a go of it,and ended in,bombing hospitals and a genocide and attacking all their neighbours....at some stage,it can't be everyone else at fault,and some personal responsibility must be accepted and ideological failure admitted

[knownunknown]

Zionist was a term for people that wanted to establish a Jewish homeland before it existed, in a place where they had a long cultural affinity. They purchased everything they got before they were attacked in 1948. It has now existed since 1948. It no longer has a meaning.

Pakistan has existed since the same time, sorry the Islamic republic of Pakistan.

Sursock purchases : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sursock_Purchases

[Setanta]

Zionist was a term for people that wanted to establish a Jewish homeland before it existed, in a place where they had a long cultural affinity. They purchased everything they got before they were attacked in 1948. It has now existed since 1948. It no longer has a meaning.

Pakistan has existed since the same time no one talks about the idea of a Muslim homeland blah blah.

Pakistan shouldn't exist either,it like our six counties being a result of British partition,they make a balls of everything and everywhere they go,and sooner they fúck off out of here,the better

[knownunknown]

Pakistan shouldn't exist either,it like our six counties being a result of British partition,they make a balls of everything and everywhere they go,and sooner they fúck off out of here,the better

At least you’re consistent, albeit a bit mad.

[knownunknown]

The largest ethnic cleansing that ever took place in the region was the cleansing of Jews from Islamic states. Do you know how many Jewish people used to live in the Middle East and how scattered they were throughout the region?

“more than 850,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, and several other Arab countries in the 20 years that followed the Arab-Israeli war of 1948. “

Everyone lost.

[knownunknown]

This is a list of every exodus of Jews by country and year. We’re just another name to add to the list judging by that crazy scumbag in the hotel in Dublin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsi ... es_of_Jews

[knownunknown]

Let’s go bomb telaviv (LGBT) on the streets of Ireland.

[knownunknown]

Definition of Zionism as set out by the early zionists:

“ 1. The promotion by appropriate means of the settlement in Eretz-Israel of Jewish farmers, artisans, and manufacturers.
2. The organization and uniting of the whole of Jewry by means of appropriate institutions, both local and international, in accordance with the laws of each country.
3. The strengthening and fostering of Jewish national sentiment and national consciousness.
4. Preparatory steps toward obtaining the consent of governments, where necessary, in order to reach the goals of Zionism.”

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/fi ... ogram-1897

Definition of Hamas as set out in their 1988 doctrine.

This they suffer, because they disbelieved the signs of Allah, and slew the prophets unjustly; this, because they were rebellious, and transgressed." (Al-Imran - verses 109-111).


Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised.

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah." (The Cow - verse 120).

The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.

It is necessary to instill in the minds of the Moslem generations that the Palestinian problem is a religious problem, and should be dealt with on this basis. Palestine contains Islamic holy sites.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp

[Setanta]

At least you’re consistent, albeit a bit mad.

OFF TOPIC

But the particular architect for this policy was a paedo who ended up being blown up off mullaghmore in what should be the second most infamous incident there of the troubles,but media sort of covers up the other and it's almost unknown

[knownunknown]

More attacks on Israelis just because they are Israelis this time coming from wales just a few days ago. They kidnapped him. If you start to look for these stories you realise how frequent they are.

Has anyone heard of any similar story of Israelis kidnapping Palestinians world wide? I mean Jews are one of the smallest religions in the world, there’s less than 20 million world wide. To correctly identify one takes some work, probably stalking on social media.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2ljglvv842o

[Setanta]

More attacks on Israelis just because they are Israelis this time coming from wales just a few days ago. They kidnapped him. If you start to look for these stories you realise how frequent they are.

Has anyone heard of any similar story of Israelis kidnapping Palestinians world wide? I mean Jews are one of the smallest religions in the world, there’s less than 20 million world wide. To correctly identify one takes some work, probably stalking on social media.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2ljglvv842o

Has anyone heard of any similar story of Israelis kidnapping Palestinians world wide

I mean,they've something like 10,000 palestinians kidnapped since the Oct 7 attacks?

They've a relatively easy population to kidnap /kill from,on the regular from with zero accountability for doing so....why would they scour the world to do so?


Their whole history is littered with tales of kidnapping Nazis around the world to bring em to justice,,iirc there was a programme on netflix about it....Simon Wiesenthal once famously bought a round of drinks in a pub at base of comeraghs to try get locals to direct him to address of Menton (I don't think he was kidnapped,though was alleged mossad were involved in arson on his mansion there)

[knownunknown]

I mean,they've something like 10,000 palestinians kidnapped since the Oct 7 attacks?

They've a relatively easy population to kidnap /kill from,on the regular from with zero accountability for doing so....why would they scour the world to do so?


Their whole history is littered with tales of kidnapping Nazis around the world to bring em to justice,,iirc there was a programme on netflix about it....Simon Wiesenthal once famously bought a round of drinks in a pub at base of comeraghs to try get locals to direct him to address of Menton (I don't think he was kidnapped,though was alleged mossad were involved in arson on his mansion there)

When a terrorist group slaughters thousands and takes hundreds hostage, including non Israeli, Irish, American, Thai etc… the people that took them hostage or harbour them deserve punishment? This is not kidnapping. https://apnews.com/article/israel-pales ... 20released.

What did the Thais ever do to deserve being kidnapped and held hostage for over 400 days? Two died in captivity. They were kidnapped. The people that did this are not kidnapped, they are criminal terrorists deserving of punishment.

After 9/11 the wars that followed it is estimated 400,000 civilians died. They were attacking terrorist militias that actually cared whether their civilians died or not, unlike Hamas.

[Setanta]

When a terrorist group slaughters thousands and takes hundreds hostage, including non Israeli, Irish, American, Thai etc… the people that took them hostage or harbour them deserve punishment? This is not kidnapping. https://apnews.com/article/israel-pales ... 20released.

What did the Thais ever do to deserve being kidnapped and held hostage for over 400 days? Two died in captivity. They were kidnapped. The people that did this are not kidnapped, they are criminal terrorists deserving of punishment.

After 9/11 the wars that followed it is estimated 400,000 civilians died. They were attacking terrorist militias that actually cared whether their civilians died or not, unlike Hamas.

If those 10,000 people kidnapped aren't afforded a fair,public civil trial,they are to be regarded as hostages,if you dislike this,your ire lies with those who are doing the kidnapping not anyone pointing it out

What did the Thais ever do to deserve being kidnapped and held hostage for over 400 days

Zero,no civilan anywhere should be kidnapped,life is pretty easy,when you don't have to look for excuses for kidnapping people

[Return of the Mac]

I'm sure this is something to do with those no good leftists

[PureIsle]

You are accusing this man of being a spy without sufficient evidence, an attempt to justify the actions somewhat taken against him. This is the very definition of McCarthyism.



Instead he is being accused of being a ‘Zionist’.

(We all know this is code for Jew)

By your logic Christian Zionists are Jews ........ interesting concept.

[knownunknown]

By your logic Christian Zionists are Jews ........ interesting concept.

No, only Jewish zionists being attacked. That’s how you know it’s about them being Jewish. What’s your thoughts on Pakistan? Should exist or should be nullified just like Israel?

[PureIsle]

No, only Jewish zionists being attacked. That’s how you know it’s about them being Jewish. What’s your thoughts on Pakistan? Should exist or should be nullified just like Israel?

No, only Israelis are being called out for the murdering butchers they are.
Always playing the victims ... doesn't wash anymore.
Israelis are genocidal maniacs backed by the equally despicble manic US administration.

[knownunknown]

No, only Israelis are being called out for the murdering butchers they are.
Always playing the victims ... doesn't wash anymore.
Israelis are genocidal maniacs backed by the equally despicble manic US administration.

Fewer civilians have died proportionally than any other war ever vs an enemy that openly espouses using their children for jihad. Hamas started the war in oct 7th and they still haven’t released all the hostages. Without the smart weapons being used by Israel, supplied by the U.S. there would be far more civilian casualties, but you know all this because it’s been said in the thread before but you ignore it because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

[knownunknown]

Senior Hamas official Khaled Mashal has said the group was aware of the ramifications of its Oct. 7 attack on Israel, and added Palestinian lives would need to be sacrificed in order to win “liberation.”

[Setanta]

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/israe ... 41471.html

The slaughter starts up again.....this was never about Oct 7....the jus like killing civilians

[knownunknown]

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/israe ... 41471.html

The slaughter starts up again.....this was never about Oct 7....the jus like killing civilians

Hamas have chosen war by not releasing the hostages. It is Hamas who is responsible for anymore wanton death because they are not in a position to negotiate and should release all the hostages.

When has a slaughter ever taken place in which the party was warned first?

”The Israeli military ordered people to evacuate eastern Gaza, including much of the northern town of Beit Hanoun and other communities further south, and head toward the centre of the territory, indicating that Israel could soon launch renewed ground operations.”

“ Israel will, from now on, act against Hamas with increasing military strength,” Mr Netanyahu’s office said.”

Hamas can end this all by giving up their arms and releasing the hostages. The only people that can end this is Hamas.

Were it a family member of yours held for over 500 days, mentally tortured and starved maybe then you would understand.