Israel and Palestine

[Setanta]

Al Jazeera are framing it as “gazans protest against the war” when it is clear the gazans are protesting against Hamas. It’s times like these you need to sit up and pay attention to the media and what they want you to believe and realize it differs from the truth because they are pushing a narrative.


https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsf ... st-the-war

Whom to believe an accredited news organisation who've been targeted for extermination for reporting on a genocide by Zionists or some random shit poster on twitter


The left make decisions like this difficult to make

[knownunknown]

Whom to believe an accredited news organisation who've been targeted for extermination for reporting on a genocide by Zionists or some random shit poster on twitter


The left make decisions like this difficult to make

Believe what your own two eyes tell you and go watch the footage of the protests yesterday. Notice the chants that say “Hamas out”.

Rte ignored it,
Al Jazeera reframed it.

BBC seem to have gotten it right. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g71lk09npo

Pro-Hamas supporters downplayed the significance of the protests and accused the participants of being traitors.
Masked Hamas militants, some armed with guns and others carrying batons, intervened and forcibly dispersed the protesters, assaulting several of them..

The same thing rte and Al Jazeera have done.

[knownunknown]

Of course you’ll ignore this @setanta like you’ve ignored all the previous evidence of gazans speaking out against Hamas.

Here’s another one from earlier in the year. Gazan : “why are Hamas hiding among civilians? Go hide in hell instead”.

Why aren’t we hearing more interviews from the people of Gaza? Because they upset this narrative nicely crafted by Hamas and propagated by our western media.

This Gazan says the cheap food is arriving by the shalom crossing, a crossing Hamas has attacked with rockets four times this month already. If there is famine it’s Hamas who are inflicting it.
Of course he’s risking his life just by uttering these words, because if Hamas found out they’d slaughter him.

“We love death as much as Israeli’s love life”, I hope everyone can see why critics of Hamas keep saying they used civilians as shields. They built tunnels to fire rockets from, not to protect their civilians. They order families to remain in houses they know will be destroyed, (after they have been ‘knocked’).

Hamas leaders declare they are a death cult hell bent on martyrdom and agree that Israel values life ‘they love it’.

Gazan man: “Hamas are firing at hungry people(in Gaza) in their homes”
“Sinwar, what gives you the right to kill your own people?”

“They(hama) got us into a war we don’t want. We(people of Gaza) want peace.”

Please try to struggle past the opening 50seconds of this clip, hosted on Israeli t.v. There are some revelations from actual Gazans that most on here are clearly unaware of.

“Where is Hamas? Half of them live in tunnels, the other half live in Qatari hotels having fun with their kids and their wives”

I’d be angry too if the Simon Harris decided to build tunnels to attack another country from, without allowing civilians to use them as bomb shelters. Angry about his absolute lack of care for the people he’s supposed to be protecting, in fact hoping we die just to advance his cause politically. It’s no wonder the gazans hate Hamas, all the useful idiots spreading this bullshit propaganda are just as culpable, for ignoring what the people of Gaza want. Rid of Hamas.

[knownunknown]

Rte have now "updated" their article from 6hours ago, at 18:03.

It used to read, "Israel threatens to invade gaza if hostages are not released". For anyone in disbelief, just Google th headline and you will see it was published by rte.

Now it reads :
"Hundreds stage Gaza protest against Hamas
Updated / Wednesday, 26 Mar 2025 18:03"
The body of the story has been amended to state that Hazan's were heard protesting yesterday, chanting hamas out.

We live in the age of news being amended retroactively.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0326/1504131-gaza-israel/

[knownunknown]

Even Fatah, which rule the west bank, have called on hamas to respond to the will of th gazans.

the rival Fatah movement called on Hamas to "respond to the call of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip"

Yet we in Ireland still caught up with the catchy hamas slogans like "from the river to the sea".

[PureIsle]

Remember, none of the above lessens the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza and West Bank.

When will countries actually do something?
Never it appears, sadly.

[knownunknown]

The same article that was amended at 18:03 by Rte was amended again at 20:35, it now reads,

Hundreds stage Gaza protest against Hamas after conflict resumes. Body of text changed again.

[knownunknown]

Remember, none of the above lessens the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza and West Bank.

When will countries actually do something?
Never it appears, sadly.

There is no genocide happening in either Gaza or the West Bank. The people in Gaza have experienced a war because Hamas, the ruling political body, started a war on Oct. 7th by murdering thousands of civilians in cold blood and taking hundreds of innocent civilians as hostages.

The people of Gaza have been through hell because Hamas insist on firing weapons from schools, hospitals and residential areas. They insist on keeping the hostages to further their political goals, because they are terrorists, that is the definition of what terrorists do.

The people of Gaza quite rightly know why they are in a horrible situation…. Because… HAMAS. When the people of Ireland were chanting “from the river to the sea” in Dublin just this week the people of Gaza held u signs saying “Hamas out”. There is an awful disconnect between support for Gaza and what the people of Gaza themselves say.

The displacement of gazans so that the IDF can destroy Hamas military structures is not genocide. It’s only genocide when it’s done with the intention of destroying the people or there culture, the IDF are doing it because they were attacked and their civilians taken hostage.

[Setanta]

Believe what your own two eyes tell you and go watch the footage of the protests yesterday. Notice the chants that say “Hamas out”.

Rte ignored it,
Al Jazeera reframed it.

BBC seem to have gotten it right. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g71lk09npo



The same thing rte and Al Jazeera have done.

I haven't said I don't believe it....just that it isn't independently verified by reliable sources

I dont trust a word out of a country that hates Ireland,our way of life and freedoms,and would attack us in a heartbeat if they could



Easy enough to put these protests to a test,hold elections there,but what will happen if hamas,or more self defense leaning parties get elected there, who'll seek to build protection for their people, because they are sitting ducks to be slaughtered for Zionist political ambitions at the minute,and this type genocide shouldn't be allowed happen ever again

[knownunknown]

Day 2 of the protests in Gaza of Hamas. The numbers are increasing from hundreds reported two days ago to thousands reported this morning by ap news.

Thousands of Palestinians marched between the wreckage of a heavily destroyed town in northern Gaza on Wednesday in the second day of anti-war protests, with many chanting against Hamas in a rare display of public anger against the militant group.

chanting “the people want the fall of Hamas.”

Rights groups say “both the Palestinian Authority and Hamas violently suppress dissent, quashing protests in the areas they control and jailing and torturing critics.” So this rare public display of dissent means they are risking their own lives and those of their families. They need the full support of the watching world and the military capabilities of Israel and the U.S. to achieve their goal of getting rid of Hamas. They need our help.

[PureIsle]

There is no genocide happening in either Gaza or the West Bank. The people in Gaza have experienced a war because Hamas, the ruling political body, started a war on Oct. 7th by murdering thousands of civilians in cold blood and taking hundreds of innocent civilians as hostages.

The people of Gaza have been through hell because Hamas insist on firing weapons from schools, hospitals and residential areas. They insist on keeping the hostages to further their political goals, because they are terrorists, that is the definition of what terrorists do.

The people of Gaza quite rightly know why they are in a horrible situation…. Because… HAMAS. When the people of Ireland were chanting “from the river to the sea” in Dublin just this week the people of Gaza held u signs saying “Hamas out”. There is an awful disconnect between support for Gaza and what the people of Gaza themselves say.

The displacement of gazans so that the IDF can destroy Hamas military structures is not genocide. It’s only genocide when it’s done with the intention of destroying the people or there culture, the IDF are doing it because they were attacked and their civilians taken hostage.

Yeah, sure, you are to be believed more than what we see with our own eyes.
Of course it means nothing that the vast majority of the world also sees the genocide.
It is obvious you have no idea of the definition of genocide .... or else are just too biased/blind/ignorant to admit it.

When will you post the videos of the Israelis protesting against Bibi?
They want him out even more than the Palestinians want rid of Hamas, but no video from you showing how they get treated by their own.

The Isreali regime is a murderous one, hell bent on killing - even their own!
Genocidal maniacs supported by more genocidal maniacs while claiming to be moral!

[PureIsle]

https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-a ... ismembered

Deliberately murdering ambulance personnel - very moral indeed!

[knownunknown]

https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-a ... ismembered

Deliberately murdering ambulance personnel - very moral indeed!

Where did you get the word deliberate from? It’s not in the article you posted or the Times of Israel article from which it quotes. It seems you have introduced that word there yourself. Very moral indeed.

Like a game of Chinese whispers, first published is “israel mistakenly attacks”. You keep doing you and making it all up as you go along.

[Setanta]

Where did you get the word deliberate from? It’s not in the article you posted or the Times of Israel article from which it quotes. It seems you have introduced that word there yourself. Very moral indeed.

Like a game of Chinese whispers, first published is “israel mistakenly attacks”. You keep doing you and making it all up as you go along.

Lad,they approved passage for Ozzie aid workers and then hunted them down for sport with drones

They openly admit to bombing ambulances and machine gunned the ambulance workers who come to help of that little girl who rang for help from the car when they'd killed rest of her family....these people are savages and shouldn't be regarded as western,they are blood thirsty middle eastern animals who thrive on slaughtering civilians and enacting famines against a captive civilan population

The Irish government endorsement of them reflects desperately poorly on the state,we should be working to sever ties completely with despots,not pricking about with an occupied territories bill

[PureIsle]

Where did you get the word deliberate from? It’s not in the article you posted or the Times of Israel article from which it quotes. It seems you have introduced that word there yourself. Very moral indeed.

Like a game of Chinese whispers, first published is “israel mistakenly attacks”. You keep doing you and making it all up as you go along.

Yep, I am making it all up as I go along ....... all 50,000+ murdered plus all the others injured mostly non combatant civilians.

But of course as you support this genocide and ethnic cleaning from that despicable apartheid state, I give little or no credence to any opinion of yours on the matter.

What I think of those who suppport this genocide is better left unsaid on this forum.

[knownunknown]

[Setanta]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... ne-says-un

Near on 200 mass graves after being discovered in Gaza now,and they haven't even begun to sift through the adbandoned rubble where the entirety of inhabits have been wiped out

Something drastic wrong with the world,if these butchers are allowed enter any country anywhere again,much less trade with civilised countries....they should face the same treatment was meted out to the Islamic state,there's no comeback for a society that carries out mass executions of aid workers

[PureIsle]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... ne-says-un
.....

Ah its OK, nothing to see here because it was not deliberate.
Purely accidental by the most moral army in the world!

[PureIsle]

Netanyahu backtracks on appointment of new Shin Bet chief as 'Qatargate' scandal heats up
Two of the premier’s close aides have been detained and are being investigated for alleged Qatari cash transfers to Hamas, as well as fraud and bribery

Two of Netanyahu’s close aides, Yonatan Urich and Eli Feldstein, were arrested on Monday morning on charges of engaging with a foreign agent, accepting bribes, fraud, breach of trust, money laundering, and coordinating Qatari cash transfers to Hamas.

https://thecradle.co/articles/netanyahu ... l-heats-up

[Setanta]

Ah its OK, nothing to see here because it was not deliberate.
Purely accidental by the most moral army in the world!

It's fuçking disgusting,half my neighbours are soup takers and been there several times on their little missions......there's nothing or noone to go back there now to


A greater shower of cunts to ever walk the earth hasn't existed,all the while people in media skirt about and avoid calling em out for the savagery of the butchering they've done to trapped civilian population....all the while we're slandered as all sorts for not being ok with bombing refugees,and met with utter bullshit excuses...an evil race of cunts,who no longer offer nothing to the world only abuse to anyone who deosnt support their butchery

An mass execution of aid workers and not a single word from any politician anywhere speaking out against this

[PureIsle]

https://limewire.com/d/yj3Es#NO8qNJNW3Z

Aye, not deliberate, we are told.

I hope that those despicable Israeli Zionist butchers and all who support them, get their due deserts very soon.

https://easyupload.io/q46mkk

"A spokesperson from the Palestine Red Crescent Society, Nebal Farsakh, said that the paramedic who filmed the video was later discovered with a bullet in his head in the mass grave, in an interview from Ramallah. "

Over the past week, the IOF has intensified its assaults on the occupied West Bank, raiding towns across Nablus, Ramallah, al-Khalil, Jenin, Toubas, and al-Bireh.

According to UNRWA, Israel’s ongoing aggression in the West Bank has triggered the largest displacement of West Bank Palestinians since the Naksa of 1967, marked by widespread destruction, forced displacement, and demolition orders targeting Palestinian families and refugee camps.

The mayor of Jenin has declared the Jenin refugee camp “uninhabitable,” reporting that 21,000 residents have been displaced, over 600 homes destroyed, and the camp’s infrastructure completely demolished.

Settler violence continues as Palestinians in Masafer Yatta and east of Beit Lahm were assaulted by Israeli settlers who even set fire to their property.

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[knownunknown]

There’s been hundreds of ambulance attacks in war zones all over the world the last few years(243 in Syria alone where ambulances are regularly employed in the conflict to move about assets and weapons) because when a war starts people either make mistakes or ambulances get used in the fighting because of their exemption status. You only hear about it when Israel does it because there is a trend in Ireland to hate on Israelis.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/8/1 ... les-rebels

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2022-04- ... by-missile

https://www.msf.org/msf-ambulance-fired ... t-cameroon

https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/defa ... kzayez.pdf

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... e-in-syria

[PureIsle]

There’s been hundreds of ambulance attacks in war zones all over the world the last few years(243 in Syria alone where ambulances are regularly employed in the conflict to move about assets and weapons) because when a war starts people either make mistakes or ambulances get used in the fighting because of their exemption status. You only hear about it when Israel does it because there is a trend in Ireland to hate on Israelis.

Is that you admitting you were completely wrong?

Some great excuse there ...... others do it so it is acceptable for Israel to do it too!

Israel is an apartheid Zionist state full of butchering murderers who have no semblance of humanity or morality.

Having people like you making excuses and denying their crimes just helps with the genocide, and disgusts reasonable people.

[knownunknown]

Is that you admitting you were completely wrong?

Some great excuse there ...... others do it so it is acceptable for Israel to do it too!

Israel is an apartheid Zionist state full of butchering murderers who have no semblance of humanity or morality.

Having people like you making excuses and denying their crimes just helps with the genocide, and disgusts reasonable people.

Russia targeted ambulances in Ukraine and yet your unfettered support for the putin goes on undiminished. Link 2 above. You’re hatred for Jews is clear as day.

Do you have the expertise to distinguish what kind of missile struck the kids hospital?
Have you examined the video evidence of the missile to determine what kind it was?

Have you read how a member of the Rada stated clearly it was the responsibility of the Ukr military, not the Ru forces?

Or have you chosen to believe one set of propaganda over the other without proof?



I do not believe that Ru forces deliberately target civilian hospitals or civilian structures not used by Ukr. military.
Definitely a building in close proximity to the hospital was struck by Ru. It was in use for military purposes. A substantial number were killed there apparently.

I have no doubt there are civilian casualties as there are bound to be when military targets are in close proximity to civilians. That happens on both sides.

How many kids died as a result of the strike on the kids hospital? 10 ... 20 ... 100?

[PureIsle]

Russia targeted ambulances in Ukraine and yet your unfettered support for the putin goes on undiminished. Link 2 above. You’re hatred for Jews is plane as clear as day.

quote=PureIsle post_id=57873 time=1720535949 user_id=553]
Do you have the expertise to distinguish what kind of missile struck the kids hospital?
Have you examined the video evidence of the missile to determine what kind it was?

Have you read how a member of the Rada stated clearly it was the responsibility of the Ukr military, not the Ru forces?

Or have you chosen to believe one set of propaganda over the other without proof?



I do not believe that Ru forces deliberately target civilian hospitals or civilian structures not used by Ukr. military.
Definitely a building in close proximity to the hospital was struck by Ru. It was in use for military purposes. A substantial number were killed there apparently.

I have no doubt there are civilian casualties as there are bound to be when military targets are in close proximity to civilians. That happens on both sides.

How many kids died as a result of the strike on the kids hospital? 10 ... 20 ... 100?

[/quote]

Everything but address the genocide and DELIBERATE murder of medics by Israel.
If you want to discuss other locations and event then there are other threads for that.

Keep posting showing yourself up for what you are!