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nlgbbbblth wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:29 am Mark Humphrys is hated by the SJWs. I think he is correct about a lot of stuff.
His website has some illuminating info on the Irish Left and his conflict with them.
Many of the people mentioned will be familiar from Twitter. Many of them are very angry.
https://markhumphrys.com/irish.left.html
He was hunted by a mob that accused him of racism about a year ago.
Some thug student took offence at his perfectly true and accurate chapter on BLM.

He didn't back down, fair play to him, every word is still up on his page and he is suing the little ringleader for slander - as he should.

I went to DCU about 20 years ago, he was a great lecturer ...

knows his history too ...

Really interesting guy.
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nlgbbbblth wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:29 am Mark Humphrys is hated by the SJWs. I think he is correct about a lot of stuff.
His website has some illuminating info on the Irish Left and his conflict with them.
Many of the people mentioned will be familiar from Twitter. Many of them are very angry.
https://markhumphrys.com/irish.left.html
This is my first time hearing of ‘gowlblocker’. :lol:
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Fratello wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:45 am Pretty awful that.
Here is a more recent interview where he discusses that BBC interview.

For a talented writer his delivery at times is left lacking. You can see Doyle trying to steer him in the right direction at times so that things he says can’t be taken up the wrong way. Someone not so clued in could easily take him up the wrong way.
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knownunknown wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:28 pm For a talented writer his delivery at times is left lacking. You can see Doyle trying to steer him in the right direction at times so that things he says can’t be taken up the wrong way. Someone not so clued in could easily take him up the wrong way.
That's a good point. It seems he is so wound up about it he doesn't know where to start. Or it could be the case that he's not as good at speaking as writing.
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Balenciaga saga.

If you want the story most of it is summarised by Reduxx here. It concerns the use of images of unhappy looking children holding teddy bears in bondage gear as advertisement material for the major luxury fashion brand Balenciaga. The company have deleted their entire Instagram since this story surfaced yesterday.

https://reduxx.info/beyond-disturbing-b ... ddy-bears/


But it gets worse. Others investigated the Balenciaga site and found that the papers scattered on the desk under their merchandise refer to a court case - Ashcroft Vs Free Speech Coalition - where a company is arguing in favour of use of computer generated images of children in pornography.

Me : I really do hope the world is not as weird as one hears and that all the stories about subterranean paedophilia are not true.

The World : Hold my beer ☹️


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Good God that’s disturbing!
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isha wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:26 pm Balenciaga saga.

If you want the story most of it is summarised by Reduxx here. It concerns the use of images of unhappy looking children holding teddy bears in bondage gear as advertisement material for the major luxury fashion brand Balenciaga. The company have deleted their entire Instagram since this story surfaced yesterday.

https://reduxx.info/beyond-disturbing-b ... ddy-bears/


But it gets worse. Others investigated the Balenciaga site and found that the papers scattered on the desk under their merchandise refer to a court case - Ashcroft Vs Free Speech Coalition - where a company is arguing in favour of use of computer generated images of children in pornography.

Me : I really do hope the world is not as weird as one hears and that all the stories about subterranean paedophilia are not true.

The World : Hold my beer ☹️


There are two possibilities here. Either (a) the photographer (Gabriel Galimberti) is misguidedly attempting to send an artistic message around the dangers to vulnerable children with photos full of 'easter egg' messages, or (b) we've found another nonce.

It's actually an industry in-joke that Balenciaga models must have a haughty, unhappy, 'I'm better than you" demeanour. The entire industry is a warped environment that attracts a fascinating array of crippled personalities.
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His previous work looks at least pleasant, and doesn't give indications of odd intentions. Whereas Balenciaga can be odd with their aesthetic.. sometimes models have bruised and bleeding faces.

I wonder if he did not know. I do a bit of photography of public happenings and there are so many things to think about that reading through the piled up paperwork spread on a desk would be very low on my list of things to do. Maybe he is suspect, but for now my first inclination is to look towards the in house design consultants in Balenciaga. And to be honest Im even hoping they have made a random mistake. Although the children with pornographied soft toys doesn't point to that.

It is all so weird. Another pebble added to the mound we are supposed to ignore.
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isha wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:42 am His previous work looks at least pleasant, and doesn't give indications of odd intentions. Whereas Balenciaga can be odd with their aesthetic.. sometimes models have bruised and bleeding faces.

I wonder if he did not know. I do a bit of photography of public happenings and there are so many things to think about that reading through the piled up paperwork spread on a desk would be very low on my list of things to do. Maybe he is suspect, but for now my first inclination is to look towards the in house design consultants in Balenciaga. And to be honest Im even hoping they have made a random mistake. Although the children with pornographied soft toys doesn't point to that.

It is all so weird. Another pebble added to the mound we are supposed to ignore.
Of all the things that outrage the regressive left like racism, misogyny, denying climate change etc… you’d think kiddie porn would be pretty easy to condemn. Instead people like Matt Walsh and libsoftiktok get castigated for re-sharing this stuff. Not the people who created it, no the ones who shared it trying to help the world understand what’s going on, they’re the bad guys not the nonces.

At least they don’t control twitter anymore to push this shit.
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isha wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:42 am His previous work looks at least pleasant, and doesn't give indications of odd intentions. Whereas Balenciaga can be odd with their aesthetic.. sometimes models have bruised and bleeding faces.

I wonder if he did not know. I do a bit of photography of public happenings and there are so many things to think about that reading through the piled up paperwork spread on a desk would be very low on my list of things to do. Maybe he is suspect, but for now my first inclination is to look towards the in house design consultants in Balenciaga. And to be honest Im even hoping they have made a random mistake. Although the children with pornographied soft toys doesn't point to that.

It is all so weird. Another pebble added to the mound we are supposed to ignore.
Yeah I hear you on the detail that a photographer might have missed but this guy is a professional operating at a high level. Court documents for an eight year old paedophilia legal case don't accidentally appear when setting up a composition for a handbag photo. Someone put them there with misguided or nefarious intent. My pet theory is someone is trolling the conservatives...
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knownunknown wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:40 pm Of all the things that outrage the regressive left like racism, misogyny, denying climate change etc… you’d think kiddie porn would be pretty easy to condemn. Instead people like Matt Walsh and libsoftiktok get castigated for re-sharing this stuff. Not the people who created it, no the ones who shared it trying to help the world understand what’s going on, they’re the bad guys not the nonces.

At least they don’t control twitter anymore to push this shit.
I wouldn't think much will change with Twitter to be honest ...
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Cyclepath wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:05 pm Yeah I hear you on the detail that a photographer might have missed but this guy is a professional operating at a high level. Court documents for an eight year old paedophilia legal case don't accidentally appear when setting up a composition for a handbag photo. Someone put them there with misguided or nefarious intent. My pet theory is someone is trolling the conservatives...
Like one of the set designers or something you mean put it there?
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Bishop_Brennan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:09 pm I wouldn't think much will change with Twitter to be honest ...
Project veritas is back and that’s great news, real undercover investigative journalism. Remember this?

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knownunknown wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:11 pm Like one of the set designers or something you mean put it there?
The photographer would have an assistant and Balenciaga would have an artistic director of some sort, but you can bet the photographer didn't just turn up and take photos - he would have been involved in the process. So it's hard to point a finger really.
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knownunknown wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:17 pm Project veritas is back and that’s great news, real undercover investigative journalism. Remember this?

So did Musk fire this little authoritarian SS thug ?
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Bishop_Brennan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:31 am So did Musk fire this little authoritarian SS thug ?
I see reports he’s fired 90% of the staff. If this guy was an SS thug then Parag Agrawal and Vijaya Gadde were the Fuhrers and they are definitely gone. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vid ... 143554.cms
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Balenciaga has apologised, said it will fire all the bold people, and won't be bad again 🙄
Meanwhile internet sleuths have looked at their other campaigns and found this has been going on elsewhere with them. I don't believe them. I think they were just caught finally with very weird signalling.





But anyway more substantive news is that the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women and Girls has written to the UK government and said that the proposed gender recognition act going through now at great haste in Scotland throws up issues where there are conflicts of rights.

Reem Alsalem makes all the right inclusivity noises about trans women, those who identify as women etc, but also says quite clearly (in a very long letter, most of which I have read) that there are clear instances where SINGLE SEX SPACES and protections are needed. Basically she says much of what I have said for years and been called a bigot and TERF for saying. She implicitly acknowledges in this letter that while we should respect people's gender expression etc, sex is immutable and relevant.

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isha wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:21 pm Reem Alsalem makes all the right inclusivity noises about trans women, those who identify as women etc, but also says quite clearly (in a very long letter, most of which I have read) that there are clear instances where SINGLE SEX SPACES and protections are needed. Basically she says much of what I have said for years and been called a bigot and TERF for saying. She implicitly acknowledges in this letter that while we should respect people's gender expression etc, sex is immutable and relevant.
This is so important. When will TWs realise that feeling like a woman doesn't mean that their expected rights can override existing rights. There's a very clear conflict of rights - only one of which is supported with biology! There does seem to be an increasing amount of support from various quarters for this distinction.

Also I can't help feeling that the Scottish parliament move is political and idealogical contrarianism - designed to virtue signal as a response to some sensible moves in England.
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OpenAI have trained a model called ChatGPT which interacts in a conversational way. The dialogue format makes it possible for ChatGPT to answer followup questions, admit its mistakes, challenge incorrect premises, and reject inappropriate requests.

So I asked the OpenAI "what is a woman?" and it answered:

A woman is a female human being. The term woman is typically used to refer to an adult, with the term girl being used to refer to a female child or adolescent. Women are capable of giving birth and are also capable of lactating in order to feed their young. Women often have different physical and hormonal characteristics than men, and they also often have different social and cultural roles.

I'm now wondering how long it'll be before the trans community get their hands on it....
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Cyclepath wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:19 pm OpenAI have trained a model called ChatGPT which interacts in a conversational way. The dialogue format makes it possible for ChatGPT to answer followup questions, admit its mistakes, challenge incorrect premises, and reject inappropriate requests.

So I asked the OpenAI "what is a woman?" and it answered:

A woman is a female human being. The term woman is typically used to refer to an adult, with the term girl being used to refer to a female child or adolescent. Women are capable of giving birth and are also capable of lactating in order to feed their young. Women often have different physical and hormonal characteristics than men, and they also often have different social and cultural roles.

I'm now wondering how long it'll be before the trans community get their hands on it....
They got their preemptive attacks in already.
The figures are actually worse in AI. At one of 2015’s biggest artificial intelligence conferences—NIPS, held in Montreal—just 13.7 percent of attendees were women, according to data the conference organizers shared with Bloomberg….
If un-diverse stuff goes in, then closed-minded, inside-the-box, not-very-good results come out,
https://www.bloomberg.com/professional/ ... s-problem/
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Andrew Tate vs feminism

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Saw this interview with piers Morgan and generally I like debates where people aren’t just shouting at each other.

Some tough topics which this guy addresses with brutal honesty, is he wrong or do you agree with what he says? Forget the title of the video the interview is interesting.

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It's Andrew Tate vs the Romanian courts now.
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Excellent interview.
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Yeah, I listened to that early this morning. What I like about Helen is she is just completely rational, logical, no-nonsense and frank. It's the mathematician in her! Good interview, especially if anyone needs a primer in the issues at stake. I honestly don't know what we would do without women like her telling this story.
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isha wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:29 pm Yeah, I listened to that early this morning. What I like about Helen is she is just completely rational, logical, no-nonsense and frank. It's the mathematician in her! Good interview, especially if anyone needs a primer in the issues at stake. I honestly don't know what we would do without women like her telling this story.
Exactly, she is a true actual feminist!

She'd wipe the floor in a debate with any of these regressive lefties..
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