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Presidential Election 2025

Irish History
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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The SDLP leader Claire Hanna has congratulated Catherine Connolly on her easy election as President of Ireland – and called on her to push the debate about the reunification of Ireland.

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/natio ... te-5375129
The SDLP believes President Connolly can use her term to provide a platform for honest discussion about a New Ireland. This conversation is not going away, and the president has a unique convening role in helping to shape it.
The SDLP leader also called for Irish citizens in Northern Ireland to get votes in such presidential elections across the border: “We welcome President Connolly’s remarks about her relationship with the North and would urge her to do everything possible to ensure this is the final time Irish citizens here are unable to vote in a presidential election.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Irish History wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:04 pm .
The SDLP leader Claire Hanna has congratulated Catherine Connolly on her easy election as President of Ireland – and called on her to push the debate about the reunification of Ireland.
What a joke, LOL!
Our new president can spout all she wants in Gaeilge or English or Russian but the damage was done and she'll sensibly be viewed with disdain by those that need to be courted up north. An unmitigated disaster of a result for those like myself hoping for a peaceful reitegration of this island.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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NewBroom wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:22 pm What a joke, LOL!
Our new president can spout all she wants in Gaeilge or English or Russian but the damage was done and she'll sensibly be viewed with disdain by those that need to be courted up north. An unmitigated disaster of a result for those like myself hoping for a peaceful reitegration of this island.
Two things about that.

1/ What damage?

2/ Who needs to be courted up north?

Think before you answer.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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I would have thought a united Ireland was at the very top of Sinn Féin's priorities, and it often seems that FG are about as keen on a UI as they are on cutting minister's pensions.

Nonetheless it is apparently a disaster for those voters who wish to see a united Ireland sooner rather than later that the Sinn Fein backed candidate won, and the FG candidate lost.

Something to do with the candidates supposed sympathies Russia is seen to be more damaging to a UI than the other's candidates supposed sympathies with the Orange Order.

I'm finding it very difficult to see the logic in all this.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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It seems to be lost on people who clearly haven't a clue what they are writing about, that we do not need the consent of the foreign ethnic British (census) anymore. They are a minority.

We just need to actively encourage our fellow Irish and the new foreigners in the north to vote for the reunification of our country Ireland.
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Gatsbygirl wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:23 pm Very nice warm atmosphere st Dublin Castle. Everyone gracious, warm and magnanimous in defeat

Especially good vibes between CC snd HH who, according to Connolly, will be having "a gin and elderflower" later

In her acceptance speech Connelly mentioned "the existential threat posed by climate change". I didn't watch all the debates, but I don't remember many references to climate change, which one would have expected to be high on the agenda. So kudos there

Also good to hear her wanting to be a voice for all "the new people who have come to our country". A calming voice on this issue will be welcome too.
How about she does what the actual jobs is a be president for the IRISH people not for people that rocked up in the last few years with some bogus sob stories.
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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One of the main things I've seen as a result of this election is widespread ignorance of our electoral system, and an absolute lack of numeracy (both of which are being pushed and exploited by foreign actors.)

Some key points:

1. Turnout and valid votes are different things. Amazing how many people are - perhaps deliberately - conflatimg the two.
2. There is nothing surprising in our electoral system. It's the same system that we've had since 1937.
3. The number of candidates is irrelevant. See point 2. And the fact that we've had five presidents elected or returned unopposed, and only 3 elections with more than 3 candidates.
4. Only valid votes count. You can guess at what non voters think, but aside from not caring enough to bother, you're just guessing. Those that turn up, choose.
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Brabantje wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:32 pm One of the main things I've seen as a result of this election is widespread ignorance of our electoral system, and an absolute lack of numeracy (both of which are being pushed and exploited by foreign actors.)

Some key points:

1. Turnout and valid votes are different things. Amazing how many people are - perhaps deliberately - conflatimg the two.
2. There is nothing surprising in our electoral system. It's the same system that we've had since 1937.
3. The number of candidates is irrelevant. See point 2. And the fact that we've had five presidents elected or returned unopposed, and only 3 elections with more than 3 candidates.
4. Only valid votes count. You can guess at what non voters think, but aside from not caring enough to bother, you're just guessing. Those that turn up, choose.
I would add a further point. Who benefits from making up lies?
That passed the time.
It would have passed in any case.
Yes, but not so rapidly
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https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/wp-co ... /10/md.png

FRANTICALLY bleaching the Áras bathrooms, President Michael D. Higgins and his wife Sabina have been spotted giving the presidential residence an almighty once-over, in what sources confirm is “a last-ditch effort” to ensure they get their full security deposit back.

Wearing his old 1970s dungarees, the soon-to-be former president was heard hollering at his wife to check the oven, a common appliance outgoing tenants forget to clean, often incurring “deductions” from their deposit.

“The fecking freezer too, Sabina! Curse the size of this house. I’m only four foot ten, for Christ’s sake,” the 84-year-old fretted. “Put the dog in the shed as well. All I’m cleaning up here is his bloody hairs everywhere!”


https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Watching TWIP and the determination to talk up sectarian abuse faced by HH is matched only by the determination not to mention the Irish Daily Mail or John Lee.
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Brabantje wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:58 pm Watching TWIP and the determination to talk up sectarian abuse faced by HH is matched only by the determination not to mention the Irish Daily Mail or John Lee.
What’s John Lee and The Irish Daily Mail got to do with this?
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SuirView wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:43 am What’s John Lee and The Irish Daily Mail got to do with this?
You aren't that stupid.

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I'd say that Heather Humphreys might have to reconsider her policy in pursuit of the Presidency of refusing to answer questions about tax compliance- and any other questions she doesn't appear to like.

On the issue of a low turnout and the number of spoiled ballots- when you consider that Humphreys could only gain a quarter of the votes that were cast in what was in the end a two-horse race I'd say you would have to suggest to Heather that she really wasn't a strong candidate.
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Irish History wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:38 pm It seems to be lost on people who clearly haven't a clue what they are writing about, that we do not need the consent of the foreign ethnic British (census) anymore. They are a minority.

We just need to actively encourage our fellow Irish and the new foreigners in the north to vote for the reunification of our country Ireland.
You are precisely the type of voice that makes peaceful reunification a very distant possibility. Maybe you should go and get your own DNA analaysed before you spout on more about the 'foreign ethnic British' neighbours that we share the island with.

If you don't understand why SF should have stood back and watched HH being elected, you don't have a clue about the sensitivities of these matters.
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NewBroom wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:38 am You are precisely the type of voice that makes peaceful reunification a very distant possibility. Maybe you should go and get your own DNA analaysed before you spout on more about the 'foreign ethnic British' neighbours that we share the island with.

If you don't understand why SF should have stood back and watched HH being elected, you don't have a clue about the sensitivities of these matters.
I genuinely don't understand the advantages to SF standing back to enable HH to be elected, and if that means I don't have a clue about the sensitivities , grand so.

Can you help me out and explain the advantages from SF's point of view?
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NewBroom wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:38 am You are precisely the type of voice that makes peaceful reunification a very distant possibility. .
It seems though you are unable to explain why - so I take it you based that unsubstantiated assertion on an emotional feeling, and you just needed to lash out.
Maybe you should go and get your own DNA analaysed before you spout on more about the 'foreign ethnic British' neighbours that we share the island with.
Maybe I have already - maybe I have West of Ireland DNA - maybe I was born in the Gaeltacht - maybe the Civil Parish more or less is our old family Clan lands - maybe I come from a long line of Irish Chieftains. Ireland is my country - who are you?
As for "foreign ethnic British Unionists" - that is what they themselves proudly identify as in the census. Ignorant people insult them by calling them Irish.
As for "neighbours". They are not our neighbours - they are squatting in our house.
As for "island" - I take it you mean actual Ireland, but have no self-respect as an Irish person and no respect for Ireland, so just wrote "island" in a Peter denying Jesus three times kind of way.
If you don't understand why SF should have stood back and watched HH being elected, you don't have a clue about the sensitivities of these matters
Where did I write I did or didn't understand ? I wrote in post 159 "I don't mind if she becomes President because she could help the reunification of Ireland, if she was truly that way inclined"

Whereas you wrote in post in 213 "As for Humphreys, God help us if she gets the nod - imagine putting up with that whiney border accent for the next seven years. Spare us"

I hope that helped clarify my position - and yours.
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Brabantje wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:32 pm One of the main things I've seen as a result of this election is widespread ignorance of our electoral system, and an absolute lack of numeracy (both of which are being pushed and exploited by foreign actors.)

Some key points:

1. Turnout and valid votes are different things. Amazing how many people are - perhaps deliberately - conflatimg the two.
2. There is nothing surprising in our electoral system. It's the same system that we've had since 1937.
3. The number of candidates is irrelevant. See point 2. And the fact that we've had five presidents elected or returned unopposed, and only 3 elections with more than 3 candidates.
4. Only valid votes count. You can guess at what non voters think, but aside from not caring enough to bother, you're just guessing. Those that turn up, choose.
Ahh yes the poor dumb Irish that spoiled theirs votes are all dopes that doesn't understand the electoral system and are being led by foreigners and millionaires.

It must be marvelous to be smart and savvy unlike the plebs, right. :roll:
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jmayo wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:52 pm Ahh yes the poor dumb Irish that spoiled theirs votes are all dopes that doesn't understand the electoral system and are being led by foreigners and millionaires.

It must be marvelous to be smart and savvy unlike the plebs, right. :roll:
Do you normally reply to things you plainly haven't read?
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Seems like it was a dreadful election for the political centre (FF, FG). They got trounced by someone who is "far left" by Irish standards, and to compound the problems, a substantial right wing protest vote has materialised for the first time.

The "centre cannot hold"?
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p.ie man wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:29 pm Seems like it was a dreadful election for the political centre (FF, FG). They got trounced by someone who is "far left" by Irish standards, and to compound the problems, a substantial right wing protest vote has materialised for the first time.

The "centre cannot hold"?
You see this is the very thing that a lot of the so called political savvy and political classes don't seem to understand.
A large tranche of Irish people, voters as well not just the old non voting malcontents that some might reference, no longer see FF or FG as being centrists.

They foisted two referendums on us last year that were modern left wing liberal hogwash.
They are indistinguishable in lots of respects from what the likes of SF, SD, Labour are offering.
Yeah they might not espouse left wing financial and economics but they are left wing in lots of respects now.
Respects that now matter a hell of an amount to a lot of Irish people.

And something that once again the political classes and political savvy as well as the media do not seem to realise is that wanting borders, immigration control, law and order, financial rectitude is not right wing never mind far right, but good old fashioned centrist.
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So tell me this and tell me no more:
Your flavour of politicians is running for years- and is getting continuously nowhere. Why? Because your sort of politics in not wanted anymore.
Why do you continue to try to ride a dead horse?
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jmayo wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:53 pm You see this is the very thing that a lot of the so called political savvy and political classes don't seem to understand.
A large tranche of Irish people, voters as well not just the old non voting malcontents that some might reference, no longer see FF or FG as being centrists.

They foisted two referendums on us last year that were modern left wing liberal hogwash.
They are indistinguishable in lots of respects from what the likes of SF, SD, Labour are offering.
Yeah they might not espouse left wing financial and economics but they are left wing in lots of respects now.
Respects that now matter a hell of an amount to a lot of Irish people.

And something that once again the political classes and political savvy as well as the media do not seem to realise is that wanting borders, immigration control, law and order, financial rectitude is not right wing never mind far right, but good old fashioned centrist.
Amazing that they don't vote for the parties that support those ideals then isn't it?
Because those parties don't seem to get any more then a handful of voters
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Re: Presidential Election 2025

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Our Irishness is not something you can dilute.

https://belfastmedia.com/reality-and-apsiration
Our right to full Irish citizenship is not a hot water bottle to comfort us. It is our birthright. The denial of our right to exercise a franchise in the Presidential election this week is an outstanding outrage and a kick in the teeth to us all and the peace agreement; and it is an indictment of Leinster House and its partitionism.
Planning to change this is not an overstep. Indeed, the opposite has been the case to date with the stubborn nervousness and cowardice of Dublin failing to defend Irish citizens since partition and the Good Friday Agreement being Irish history’s shame
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There was a motion in Leinster House on the 22nd of Oct. brought by Aontú about voting right for Irish people in the occupied 6 counties of Ireland and reform of the presidential election nomination process.

It was very good - whether Fianna Fail and Fine Gael will actually act on it is yet to be seen. These useless partitionist parties in government have been dragging their heels for years after promising voting right to Irish people in the occupied 6 counties of Ireland for years.

Whether you like him or not, you should really read or watch what Peadar Tóibín the leader of Aontú said - it was just magnificent.
Imagine for a second the absolute joy that would exist in the hearts of Irish citizens in the North of Ireland if they could cast a vote in an all-Ireland election for the first time since 1918. That would be a significant step forward for most people in the North of Ireland and indeed for the Irish nation as a whole. That gift is not in Westminster - It is not decided by Stormont - It is decided by this House.
Read here. https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/de ... 5-10-22/9/

Watch here. https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/de ... 025-10-22/
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Well, Jimmy Kimmel, who was visiting Ireland with his family during our Presidential election, has nice things to say about us , during his opening monologue on his Tuesday night show:

https://www.thejournal.ie/jimmy-kimmel- ... op-stories

He was especially taken by the mutual warmth displayed by the two rival candidates in Dublin Castle, and he showed a photo of them smiling warmly together and shaking hands

He compared that to the vitriolic atmosphere during recent US Presidential elections.

Also, during his visit, his niece lost her handbag in a pub, and it was returned to her by the honest person who found it, who refused all payment

So, things not so bad here after all, it seems.
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